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Satish Singh: hi all
David Grover: Hi!
Satish Singh: hello david
Gerry Forde 2: Hi All
Dennis Smith: Hi all
Satish Singh: hello everyone, we're going to give everyone a few minutes to join before getting started
Satish Singh: hello Jose, welcome
Eric Selken: hello all!
Satish Singh: We're going to give folks about 5 more minutes before starting
sara rayman: Hello everyone, I'm glad to see this session is being recorded... will it also be available for later veiwing as my supervisor couldn't attend?
Satish Singh: yes, it will be available later
Satish Singh: you will be able to find a link to it from TechChats at www.delltechcenter.com
sara rayman: Great! Thanks.
Dennis Smith: Great group of people here today! Hope you brought your questions :)
Joey Ware: it'll be good to see how WDM has changed, haven't used it since 2008
Jason Masson: Are we getting T-shirts? ;-)
Bill Fleming: Hi Sara!
Satish Singh: Virtual T-Shirts, all around
Jose: Any type of cool swag i'm cool with.
Dennis Smith: lol...ask our Rockstars :)
Joey Ware: I'm rocking the polo Nike dri-fit today since it came in yesterday
Jose: Even if it's free virtual stuff lol
Dell_JoeG: I'm sure we could all use a vBeer too.
Gerry Forde 2: now you talking Joeg
Jose: lol for ***!
Satish Singh: all right, I think we can get started folks
Dennis Smith: Here's a pic of Joey's swag :) http://t.co/tA6cHKciuP
Satish Singh: Hello all, welcome to our TechChat on Dell Wyse Device Manager version 5 (WDM 5) and Dell Wyse WSM.
Marius Sandbu: so this presentation will be avakl
Satish Singh: The presenters today are Jigar Shah, Dell Wyse WDM Product Manager, Manish Bhaskar, Dell Wyse WSM Product Manager, and Eric Selken, Channel Marketing Manager, Dell (Moderator)
Manish Bhaskar: we cant hear you
Satish Singh: yes marius, it will be available
David Grover: yes!
Jason Masson: Yes!
Bill Fleming: yes!
Steve Roque: Yes
Gerry Forde 2: yes
Dell_JoeG: Now we can hear you
sara rayman: yes
Jason Masson: loud and clear now
Satish Singh: I should have un-muted myself :)
Steve Roque: I can't hear that well...
Gerry Forde 2: sound gone very low
Satish Singh: I am asking him to speak a bit louder
Harley: Audio is a little choppy
Bill Fleming: Manish, Your not coming through loud enough for everyone.
Satish Singh: you can also turn up the volume
Satish Singh: you're fading out a bit :)
Satish Singh: oh yah
Steve Roque: Much better
Gerry Forde 2: much better
Gerry Forde 2: whats the benifts of wsm over windows rds ?
Jose: I use WSM in our library labs, such as our Adults, Kids, and selfcheckout labs. Works great!
Jason Masson: Sounds like XenClient with the image delivery.
Jason Masson: ahhh got you
Marius Sandbu 2: So WSM is using streaming OS like PVS ?
Marius Sandbu 2: Sounds like something I need to demo! :)
Eric Selken: @Marius, you can request an eval at:
Eric Selken: https://appservices.wyse.com/pages/serviceandsupport/support/enterprise.asp?which=90&model=WSM(Software Downloads)
Jose: Patching is very easy, although i do run into activation issues from time to time.
Nayef Hamarsheh: hi Manish, are you going to touch on the new release of WSM? cureently I know 6.2.
Bill Fleming: what was that feature called?
Satish Singh: all, Eric, Manish, and Jigar will keep responding to questions periodically as there is a decent amount of material to cover
Satish Singh: wanted to make sure folks didn't think their questions were being ignored
Satish Singh: we will also share contact information at the end
Nayef Hamarsheh: what about applications in the disconnected mode?
Gerry Forde 2: what are the server requirements ? do you need large gpu large memory etc
Gerry Forde 2: nice
Gerry Forde 2: whats is the license model
Manish Bhaskar: WSM uses the same licensing model as regular desktop
David Akers: Is someone talking it is very soft?
Gerry Forde 2: sound gone again
Eric Selken: audio is very low
Manish Bhaskar: All of dell Cloud Desktops come with Diskless COA
G: cannot hear
Joel Knowles: no sound
Steve Roque: I lost sound also
Marius Sandbu 2: no sound
David Akers: yes
David Akers: heya Joel
Gerry Forde 2: @manish how do you license wsm
Manish Bhaskar: You do need Client SA (just like regular desktop)
Marius Sandbu 2: no slide
Jason Masson: We can hear, but its very low
Manish Bhaskar: which will give you access to volume licensing
Jason Masson: sounds distant.
Manish Bhaskar: All applications licnese based on the vendors processes
Joel Knowles: sound low and breaking up
Alan: Cannot hear clearly
Jason Masson: hardly hear anything.
Steve Roque: Voice is cutting in & out
G: yep..breaking up..cannot understnad
chris_anderson: can't barely hear
Gerry Forde 2: better
Manish Bhaskar: @Gerry was my answer clear
Manish Bhaskar: With WSM you DO NOT need VDA
Pablo G: The sound is coming and going, making hard to hear
Jason Masson: Sounds very muffled
Gerry Forde 2: @manish trying to understand the cost model
David Akers: alot my end
David Grover: please send us the recording link afterward. It's impossible to follow with all the drops by Sonic Wall.
Manish Bhaskar: @gerry, the cost of WSM cloud desktoop clients ranges from about $400 (D00D/Q) clients to customizable Optiplex form factors
Manish Bhaskar: all of these devices come with needed MSFT COA
Manish Bhaskar: which is basically license to run windows
Manish Bhaskar: On top of this you do need client Software Assurance to provide you the Volume licensing
Manish Bhaskar: Client SA is the same one used for regular desktop deployments
Gerry Forde 2: @Manish we have moved from igel's to D90D7 do I need to buy extra license to run wsm
Manish Bhaskar: WSM itself (the Software) is licensed at $129 for enterprise per client (as in end device)
Jose: Manish is it good practice to point the master image back to our KMS server for activation of windows?
Manish Bhaskar: and $99 for education
Manish Bhaskar: its perpetual licensing
Manish Bhaskar: D90D7 does not have the right windows licenses to run full Windows
Manish Bhaskar: This is a MSFT restriction.
Manish Bhaskar: If you want to run WSM powered full windows on D90D7, you would need to get VDA
Manish Bhaskar: with VDA you don't need to have any client COA
Manish Bhaskar: from a HW perpective sure you can use WSM to power a D90D7 easy
Manish Bhaskar: @jose, absolutely. WSM has the feature that will enable windows licensing on the image for you. Its a check box that you can select on your image
Manish Bhaskar: If you do that the image will automatically look for a KMS server and activate windows
Jose: Thank you Manish!
Manish Bhaskar: @jose you can also enable specific KMS servers if needed
Nayef Hamarsheh: would wsm 7 support linux streaming?
Manish Bhaskar: No WSM 7 does not support Linux
Manish Bhaskar: We have it in our rdmap but there has never been a strong biz case for linux desktops
Jose: Manish i do have an issue activation my Office 2010 products. I have to opprearm my image before i finalize, but with only 5 rearms i do have to pull my master image periodically. Is there a best practice for this issue?
Manish Bhaskar: @jose, the office products should be exactly like VDI deployments. I will send you some documents
Jose: AWESOME!! THANKS...
Jason Masson: Maybe was already said and I missed it, but are we going to be able to get these slides after the presentation?
Bill Fleming: Manish, What are the desktop requirements for application layering in WSM 7?
Manish Bhaskar: @bill, same WSM clients as before can layer applications. The dependency is basically the end client should be capable of running the application
Eric Selken: @Jason, send me an email at email@example.com and i'll get you the slides
Manish Bhaskar: As an example if you try to run a high perf game on a D class client its going to be bad experience, but the same game running on optiplex with WSM app ayering will scream
Bill Fleming: OK, but doesn't WSM 7 have the ability to stream an applicaiton to a non streamed OS--ie, standard desktop PC?
Manish Bhaskar: @bill application layering itself does not put additional load on the clients
Manish Bhaskar: @bill, yes with WSM 7 you can layer apps on standard desktop. To do this you wuld need to install the WSM client on the desktop
Manish Bhaskar: thats it
Manish Bhaskar: after that as soon as you login, WSM 7 will layer the applications
Manish Bhaskar: Its not application streaming like before, its a new technology called layering which is much higher performing
Bill Fleming: Will the current licensing model (Dell/Microsoft) still apply if only layering apps and streaming a full desktop?
Satish Singh: Everyone, as we only have a few minutes left, here is the contact information for both presenters, and eric
Satish Singh: J_M_Shah@Dell.Com, Manish_Bhaskar@Dell.Com, Eric_Selken@Dell.com
Manish Bhaskar: Yes for streaming and app layering all existing licensing apply
Satish Singh: I'll add this again at the end of the chat
Bill Fleming: ok, that's good to know.
Manish Bhaskar: For layering on standard desktop, the OS continues to be licensed the way the standrd desktop was licensed
Manish Bhaskar: The apps are licensed based on the vendors licensing model
Jason Masson: yes, one stop shop would be good
Bill Fleming: Manish, can you talk to the new Peer assisted deployment feature in WDM 5?
Bill Fleming: sorry, Jigar!
Dennis Smith: Thanks everyone! We'll have the chat transcript and recording up this week! Check http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/extras/chats/w/wiki/ for the transcript
Gerry Forde: Thanks Guys
Dennis Smith: thanks guys!
Joel Knowles: thanks
Satish Singh: If there are any additonal questions, please contact Jigar, Manish, and Eric at the following email addresses
harry nong: hello .why D90D7 can't video frequency ?
harry nong: and p25 can do that.