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DELL-ScottH
Hey Kent
 
Dell-KentS
Hey
 
Dell-KentS
Sorry, trying to do 4 things at once
 
DELL-ScottH
ohh yeah, the way of the world
 
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DELL-ScottH
Hey Mba, how are you ?
 
DELL-MBA
good
 
DELL-MBA
I got the note yesterday about the chat
 
DELL-MBA
so I though I join in
 
DELL-ScottH
thanks for joining, going to wait a few minutes see if we get any customers
 
DELL-MBA
sure
 
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DELL-ScottH
hi andy ?
 
DELL-ScottH
whoops .. i mean Hi Andy !!
 
andyforo
getting a bunch of error messages
 
andyforo
cannot start chat low memory
 
andyforo
is that my end or the server
 
andyforo
?
 
DELL-ToddM
Are you still getting them?
 
DELL-ScottH
in the browser java window ? server is setup for 200 concurrent connections , we've had more than this on before
 
andyforo
they're scrolling through the chat window
 
andyforo
error cn723 cannot s
 
andyforo
low memory or no connection
 
DELL-ScottH
have you dis and re connected ?
 
andyforo
let me try that
 
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DELL-ScottH
hi gsherman, how are you ?
 
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gsherman03
good how are you
 
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DELL-ScottH
great, was waiting for a few customers to get started .. would that be you ? What companyt are you with ?
 
gsherman03
what is the scope that we can discuss here we have a few Powerconnect and open manage questions
 
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gsherman03
Rvm Inc
 
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DELL-ScottH
scope is on Openmanage for this session, but we can try to tackle whatever you bring up ..... let me give a few minutes of intro, then we can kick your questions off
 
gsherman03
great
 
DELL-ScottH
Thanks to all for joining, hopefully andy will be able to get back in .... This is the kickoff of our weekly chat sessions, we'll be here every Tuesday at 3PM with different topics ... be sure to check the main page for a list of upcoming topics
 
DELL-ScottH
The transcripts are available for viewing, so be nice ! .... the chat box is also open 24/7 so feel free to drop in anytime to see who is hanging out.
 
DELL-ScottH
maybe Dell Developers, engineering, you never know.
 
DELL-ScottH
Today is all about Dell Openmanage .... Version 5.3.1 was just released in conjunction with out new M1000e Blades ... be sure to check out the main Openmanage page for details --> http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+systems+management
 
DELL-ScottH
That page will cover the basics, as well and some intro and advanced demos on features of the products.
 
DELL-ScottH
I've also started testing some of the power monitoring features for the blades .. check that out here --> http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/blade+power+monitoring+with+ita
 
DELL-ScottH
so with that, some intros of the people here ....
 
DELL-ScottH
toddm, rogerf, and myself are with the Dell Enterprise Technology Center, Mba is will Dell Engineering with a focus on Exchange, and Kent is an Se in the field , is that correct Kent ? .... any questions to start us off on a path of discussion ?
 
Dell-KentS
I am the Enterprise Technologist for Server Management for Dell Canada
 
DELL-ScottH
cool, sorry for the Se, it's the old job in me comig out
 
gsherman03
I have a few I noticed with the new blade centers that power management is shown specifically power consumption is this available to other servers e.g. 1950, 2800, etc
 
DELL-ScottH
depends, some of the attributes are exposed, some are not ... you definetly want to install the latest Omsa agent, the attributes that are not available will be grayed out as a selection ....look at the 3rd pictures in that 2nd link I just posted
 
DELL-ScottH
my testing just started with the blades, but the plan is to do some on the 2950 and our older boxes to see what is exposed. Keep an eye on the wiki, or my blog to see finding
 
DELL-ScottH
 
gsherman03
Ah ok we will update for sure another though is what is the cost from a network and or processor overhead to collect this information
 
Dell-KentS
Most of the information requires intrumented Power Supplies trhat are available in the latest 9th Generation Servers as well as all of the 10th generation servers
 
DELL-ScottH
minimal overhead, but the default is to collect info every 2 minutes, you might want to decrease that sample rate if you are concerned
 
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DELL-ScottH
hello bybee
 
bybee
Hello
 
gsherman03
how does one decide if it is needed to deploy the open manage network assistant we currently run the It assistant and we have categorized each Vlan stoping at the default gateway so we do not hit the core switches over and over again
 
gsherman03
seems this was an issue
 
DELL-ScottH
Kent, you know much about networking management ? ... .not an area I have dived into yet
 
gsherman03
my understanding was it was costly (bandwidth wise) and only needed if the switches are managed and the count exceeds 15+
 
DELL-ScottH
Send me an email with the details of the question, and I can forward to some people that can help .. scott_hanson@dell.com .... or wait, maybe Kent knows, I think he's typing
 
Dell-KentS
I haven't looked at this that deply, but best practices dictate that you want to minimize unnecessary trafiic across the core.
 
DELL-ScottH
bybee, fyi, click on "actions", then "recent Room history" to catch up
 
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bybee
thnx
 
gsherman03
of course I mean basicall we dicated a range covering the whole vlan that would include its default gateway therefore hitting back to the core so we limited this
 
gsherman03
seemed to help with a memory issue on the 6248's however we still have a memory leak of some sort as a result of open manage
 
gsherman03
have a case open anyone hear of this
 
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DELL-ScottH
Hi Shelley
 
DELL-ScottH
Nothing I know of, that doesn't mean much, support case is the right path to drive to resolution, also a posting on the Dell Community forums might help as well.
 
gsherman03
yeah ok lets move on then and I hope I am not dominating here if others have questions go ahead by all means
 
DELL-ScottH
not a problem, we are here you you. Bybee, what company are you with and any threads of discussion around systems management youd like to bring up ?
 
DELL-ScottH
shelley, fyi, click on "actions", then "recent Room history" to catch up on the chat
 
gsherman03
Next item I feel which would be of use is a Best practices for monitoring in open manage for example if i want to monitor and exchange server, sql server are there specifics I should target in open manage
 
bybee
I'm with Blackrock, and have recently deployed It Assistant and am in the process of updating our base of production Dell servers to current Omsa versions
 
bybee
just here to lurk and gleam some info, seems to be an interesting platform to gain some info outside the std documentation etc
 
DELL-ScottH
That's a good point that I don't think has been brought up before, would be a good candidate for a wiki articel .... Om is focused on the hardware, but there are some things that could be monitored in the performance section for specfic enteprise apps, we'll have to visit this.
 
DELL-ScottH
@bybee, yeap we encourage lurking !
 
bybee
currently trying to sort how best to utilize Om tools in combination with Sms and Mom for hdware update baselining, deployment, and monitoring
 
DELL-ScottH
for sql, exchange, etc ... probably want to be using Mom, sorry mean Scom, the new stuff to monitor the standard things in those apps
 
DELL-ScottH
Have you seen the intergration pack for Scom ?
 
bybee
haven't had much luck w/ software deployment (omsa) via Ita
 
DELL-ScottH
doesn't deploy ?
 
bybee
yes, I've installed, but haven't worked with it in depth yet at this point
 
bybee
trying to get up to speed on features of the various product and how best to combine their strengths
 
bybee
yes, deployment erros
 
bybee
created deployment task/pkg but tend to get errors/failures
 
bybee
have started leaning towards Sms deployment of Omsa
 
DELL-ScottH
the most common deployment errors are usually seen when specifying crendentials for autentication, make sure you use "doman/id" and not just id
 
bybee
interested in getting the online reppository dialed in in Ita
 
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bybee
domain/id, goi it
 
bybee
<got it>
 
DELL-ScottH
yes that part is very useful, it won't deploy Omsa , but will do firmware/bios/ driver updates ... I've got a demo on that
 
bybee
firmware/bios/driver updts is primary goal
 
bybee
i've viewed the demo, I believe
 
DELL-ScottH
 
DELL-ScottH
anything else on anyones minds ? .. not a bad start for our first chat, be sure to get the word out to all your compadres
 
bybee
I'd like to see a demo/wiki on how to create a baseline report in Ita showing hdwr rev/ver in comparison to online repository levels
 
DELL-ScottH
I do that in the one of the demos, let me remember which one
 
bybee
if that makes sense... I'm still pretty *green* to the whole Om sweet
 
DELL-ScottH
yeah, the comparison report is a little buried
 
gsherman03
Agreed on the ussage of open manage for application specific what about the hardware attributes most recommended
 
gsherman03
there are so many things to trap in the new dell servers its overwellming
 
DELL-ScottH
Todd had some ideas, he's about to chime back in ... looks like Kent too
 
gsherman03
ok
 
bybee
how do the Suu and Ita "repository" overlap in feature set... similar in effect, no?
 
Dell-KentS
Bybee, If you select a specific bundle from the online reposiory listing, there will be a tab for Compliance which will allow you to compare against the systems in your environment
 
Dell-KentS
Ita leverages the Suu repository.
 
DELL-ToddM
There is usually a different level or tiering for a server depending on what it is doing
 
DELL-ScottH
@bybee, look at my first demo in the Openmanage Demos @4:00 into the demo it shows the Complinace report
 
DELL-ToddM
So an Exchange server is usually more important that a file-server or backup server
 
DELL-ToddM
So if you group or tier systems based on function, you can then setup response actions based on how important they are
 
DELL-ToddM
So when your Exchange Server has a problem - You get a text msg to your phone
 
DELL-ToddM
When your Test and Dev system has a hiccup - you get an email
 
DELL-ToddM
You may also want to monitor different sets of things based on the server function / importance
 
gsherman03
right but more specifcally what items are recommended not just methods of updating staff
 
gsherman03
Thanks by the way Todd
 
DELL-ScottH
yeah, I think we need to explore that and write it up in the wiki, is a good idea for others to post what they might have done as well ... we will start a topic on that "what to monitor for different Enterpise Apps" .. sound good ? thanks for the idea
 
gsherman03
yup thanks
 
bybee
does sound interested, and would be helpful
 
DELL-ScottH
bybee, like your profile on the wiki :-)
 
bybee
haven't yet gotten into monitoring/notification via Ita
 
bybee
we use Mom/scom for this
 
bybee
among others
 
bybee
:)
 
DELL-ToddM
With the Openmanage pack for Mom/scom you can use Mom to alert on Openmange events
 
bybee
yes
 
bybee
first have to have Omsa out to the fleet, on latests vers hopefully
 
gsherman03
mom/scom free these days?
 
DELL-ScottH
no
 
DELL-ToddM
Not free
 
bybee
alerts on storage controller fmwr/driver ver would be cool, if an outdated box or incorrect build ended up out in production?
 
gsherman03
agreed
 
bybee
not free (nor cheap)
 
gsherman03
the 2900 had some showstoppers
 
gsherman03
so that is something we can monitor against dells distributed releases
 
gsherman03
another question in the demo for Ita it shows the ability to check for updates from dell via ftp or something along those lines
 
gsherman03
I am bringing it up now but I do not have the same functionality as shown in the demo
 
Dell-KentS
This feature is available in Ita 8.1
 
DELL-ScottH
let me bring mine up too
 
DELL-ScottH
what verison is yours
 
bybee
it took me *quite a while* to sort that the online repository was in a newer release
 
DELL-ScottH
what functionality are you missing ?
 
bybee
I even called support after watching scott's demo here, and they had No Clue what ver would include that type of function
 
gsherman03
Manage/software updates
 
DELL-ScottH
doooh, guess I should show versions and prereqs up front
 
gsherman03
It Assistant rep...
 
DELL-ScottH
k, I'm on that screen
 
gsherman03
I get add but only bin./exe
 
gsherman03
no website
 
gsherman03
hence my repository comparison is less then interesting
 
bybee
the online repository only shows after upg to 8.1.0
 
DELL-ScottH
you don't have the "online Repository" under the "IT Asst Rep" ??
 
DELL-ScottH
what does your "about" button say, in the top right ?
 
Dell-KentS
Under Actions do you have "configure Online Synchronization"?
 
gsherman03
checking version here any
 
gsherman03
ouch 8.0.0
 
gsherman03
not in the ballback here I will update
 
DELL-ScottH
ohhh a short between the keyboard and the chair :-)
 
gsherman03
pebkac
 
DELL-ScottH
yup, I had several of those yesterday !
 
bybee
i've found it challenging to keep up to speed/date on the versioning of all the Om components
 
gsherman03
ok so we have eliminated that issue potentially any performance improvement seems to be a bit slow to load the web interface
 
bybee
and the filename/distribution points arent always intuitive
 
bybee
fwiw
 
gsherman03
it's sitting in a Vm but the server is pretty fast
 
DELL-ScottH
yes, there were several recently, not a good time to be green field bybee
 
bybee
so with regard to "complianc" reporting in the online rep
 
bybee
i'm finally seeing how this may work
 
DELL-ScottH
8.1.1 seems a little faster, buts it's java based for what that's worth, when I increased my java heap size it seemed to be a little faster in the browser
 
gsherman03
Also another item and I assume this isnt a dell thing but we monitor our Hp printers in Om Ita when they require a maintenance kit, or at least I think this is why it happend open mange marks them as a problem any way to acknowledge so that I can glace at a group and see that it is clean
 
gsherman03
hmmm
 
bybee
is there a way to create a compliance repport for multiple Pe models and collections?
 
bybee
or is per server type
 
bybee
only
 
gsherman03
does that need to be handled on the server too
 
gsherman03
I dont see the heap size is that in Open manage or in the control panel/ Java settings
 
DELL-ScottH
compliance can be run against the whole server liine, or filtered, just click the "filter" button after running the report
 
DELL-ScottH
control panel/java
 
Dell-KentS
Bybee - the compliance is done on an "update" basis whteher this is a single update or a bundle.
 
bybee
can compliance reporting be done, selecting multiple bundles?
 
DELL-ScottH
Todd and I have to run to a meeting .... thanks to all for joining, we have sent several compliments in the Wiki to those in attendance. Your pellet, as it may be :-)
 
bybee
i.e. I want an overall report of hdwr compliance for all server models currently monitored/managed in Itsa
 
bybee
what I'm understanding now, is that I can do this individually per server/collection "update"
 
bybee
thnx guys
 
gsherman03
thanks when do we cover powerconnect switches?
 
DELL-ScottH
thank you, stay on as long as necessary, Kent can you hang around and help out ?
 
DELL-ToddM
Gotta Go - Thanks to all. We can keep these threads going via discussion threads (or comments) on the wiki Or we can have another web chat for Openmanage soon
 
bybee
sounds good, ttfn
 
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Dell-KentS
You can run a complete report for all systems and their respective versions but not a compariosn against the repository since there can be multiple veriosn in the repo
 
DELL-ScottH
gsherman, add that as a thread on the Chat page, and we'll set it up for a chat in the next few
 
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gsherman03
will do
 
Dell-KentS
If I understand correctly, you are looking for a report that compares the environment against the "latest: bundle in the repository
 
bybee
Ok Kent, i'll work some more to tune some reports and shout if any ?'s or feature req are needed
 
bybee
Yes!
 
Dell-KentS
I'll take that back to dev.
 
bybee
ok
 
bybee
take it easy, thnx again
 
gsherman03
thanks
 
Dell-KentS
You're welcome.
 
gsherman03
hmm not seeing the thread to add to
 
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gsherman03
nm i got it
 
gsherman03
thanks guys later