Good day Dell Community,
Because of your questions I'm pleased to present the below information, specifications and requirements for M.2 on various Dell models.
Internal dives supported: 3
Drive configurations supported ( max ): (3x M.2) or (2x M.2 and 1x 2.5inch SATA)
The 2 M.2 slots available are wired as 4X
The 2.5 Inch bay is wired as 2X
Parts needed to install M.2 into the dedicated M.2 slot:
1x HR8P8 thermal cover ( comes with cover and thermal pad )
1x 4270E Screw: ( Holds the cover down on top of the M.2 drive )
Parts needed to install an M.2 into the 2.5 inch bay of 7710 and 7510:
1x 745TM 2.5 inch metal bracket - most units will have this already included
1x Y1WJX M.2 bracket ( goes inside of 745TM )
4x 2864D M3X3 screw. Most systems will have these already included. These screws hold in the Y1WJX M.2 drive carrier, or a 2.5 inch drive into 745TM.
1x WPTND M.2 Interposer Board. This installs into Y1WJX M.2 bracket.
5x 4270E M2.0*3L screws
1x HR8P8 M.2 thermal cover
Find instructions here on the Dell Community.
M.2 slot supports 4X
Parts needed to install an M.2 into the 2.5 inch bay are the same as the 7710 above.
Precision 5510,5520 and XPS 9550,9560:
Internal dives supported: 2
Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) (1x 2.5 SATA) (1xM.2 and 1X 2.5 SATA)
The 2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA
Parts needed in order to install a M.2:
1x XDYGX cable
2x 3XYT5 rubber side isolator
1x 3FDY3 metal HDD bracket ( some units may already have this installed even if a 2.5 inch drive wasn't ordered from Dell originally )
Discussed here on Dell Community.
Internal dives supported: 1
Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) or (1x 2.5inch SATA)
2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA
1x X3YR8 M.2 end bracket
1x 1X2MT thermal cover
Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) (1x 2.5inch SATA) (1x M.2 cache drive and 1x 2.5 inch drive )
Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive:
1x 2FFR0 end bracket
1x X3DN4 -Thermal plate
1x 4270E - End screw
E5270 supports 2X
E5570 with H processor supports 4X
E5570 with U processor supports 2X
E5470 with H processor supports 2X
E5470 with U processor supports 2X
Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive are same as 3510 above.
E5280 supports 2X
E5580 with H processor supports 4X
E5580 with U processor supports 2X
E5480 with H processor supports 4X
E5480 with U processor supports 2X
Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive are same as 3520 above.
Latitude E7270, E7470:
Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2)
M.2 slot supports 2X
Parts Needed in order to upgrade to M.2:
1x DJ69P thermal cover
Latitude 7280, 7480:
1x R6TGF thermal cover
2x VJYP9 screw M2X3 ( most systems will have at least one of these already included )
XPS 13 9350/9360
The M.2 slot available supports up to 4X
XPS 13 9365
1x 4HP13 - Thermal plate
2x JPRFM - M1.6x2.5 screws
Optiplex 5040, 7040 ( Mini Tower ):
Drive configurations supported: (1xM.2) (2xM.2) (1xM.2 and 1x2.5) (2x2.5) (1x3.5)
The single on board M.2 slot supports up to 4X
The M.2 drive installed into the 2.5 inch bay: 2x
Parts needed for M.2.
1x 6J3FV SATA cable1x X9FV3 M.2/2.5 inch bay adapter/caddy On motherboard M.2 installation instructions found here.
OS install notes:
There's an updated storage driver (IRST F6) to include PCIE support. ( The one you have to install for Windows to see the drive during installation ):
Also see: Installing Windows 7 on a SKYLAKE system using MDT: http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/HOW11493/en
Obtaining an ISO image:
For some systems you can obtain Dell operating system images through Dell Hosted image
Note: not all systems and service tags will have an image available for download.
Note: Even though Dell Hosted Images have USB3 drivers slip streamed in, they may not include the IRST driver at this time. ( some may know this at the F6 driver ). As a result you may need to install the IRST driver manually during the Windows install process.
Dell is currently working to add the IRST driver to the Dell Hosted Images. No ETA on when this will happen at this time.
Other M.2 Articles:
Imaging M.2 Solid-State Drives in Intel Skylake chipset systems
Only 1 Solid State Drive (SSD) seen on Interposer card
SSD not detected on startup or reboot on New Precision 15 5000 (5510) or XPS 15 9550
PXE Booting with M.2 Solid State Drives
How to distinguish the differences between M.2 cards
Why am I unable to find option in BIOS to set a hard drive password on NVMe SSD
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I read it ) But, under Owner's Manual in "Hard drive options" i see "This laptop supports M.2 SATA drive and M.2 NVMe drive." (www.dell.com/.../Hard-drive-options It's manual error?
> It's manual error?
I have no way to verify or refute that; I'm just a Dell customer.
Hi Justin, I recently bought a E5470 and the manual says PCIe disks can go up to 512 and I was planning on adding a 1T nvme from samsumg a 960 pro.
will this work?
I use Linux
I'm wanting to know that as well. I will work internally on your questions and get more information on that. I'll reply back when I know more.
I've learned the below:
M.2 SATA drives receive hard drive password support from the BIOS
M.2 PCIE drives are not eligible for hard drive password support due to them running on PCIE
Infact, while running a M.2 PCIE drive you can set the SATA operation to 'disable' and the PCIE drive will still function normally. I will have the following document updated to reflect these facts:
<ADMIN NOTE: Broken link has been removed from this post by Dell>
I know so far that you'll need thermal pad part number HM1P2 for the 3050 Micro. This pad likely goes between the drive and the motherboard, like how it does on the 7040 and other models. I will confirm and get back with you.
Further, it's looking like there's no screw required for the end of the M.2 drive. Instead, there's a blue tab that holds it on. Can you open your 3050 and see if your system came with this blue tab?
Since the online document contradicts what I've previously stated, I will work internally and get you the correct information. I will reply back when I know more.
Dell documents will reflect what Dell supports on any one model. That doesn't mean a certain specification outside of what is listed in our document won't work. Most advice by Dell outside of documentation will come at our best effort.
Dell can never promise that a retail drive will work with any Dell system model. With that said, I know there are several threads out there showing compatibility issues between Dell systems and 960 drives. I've heard of owners having a lot better success when running with a PM961 with their Latitude.
You'd simply have to try it at your own risk basically.
> You'd simply have to try it at your own risk basically.
Worst case scenario, if it doesn't work installed inside your computer and you can't return it,
you can buy an enclosure like:
and use it as an external drive.
I bought one of those, installed CentOS on it... works great even with Secure Boot, and the USB-C/Thunderbolt port is *fast*.
You mentioned that the Latitude 5580 supports the configuration with an 1x M.2 cache drive and 1x 2.5 inch drive. Unfortunately, i haven’t seen any Information if any additional parts are needed for this configuration. Watching a Video where the internals of the 5580 are shown ( www.youtube.com/watch ) it seems that the M.2 cache drive must be placed in the wwan slot. The space right next to the hard drive seems be blocked / to small and cannot be used. Am i making the correct assumtions?
Forthermore I’d like to know if the “M.2 cache drive” configurations allows the os to be installed only on the ssd and the hard drive is used as an additional drive. Is this possible or can the ssd only be used a cache and not as a separate drive.
I am also looking for the parts needed to install ssd m.2 nvme on my Latitude 5480 but could not find anywhere. Where can I ask for those itens? Dell Brazil says that they cannot help me once they don't have the references - which are all very well described on that post by the way. I'd thank any help =)
I'm trying to get the parts needed to do the properly fastening of my ssd on place but for now i'm improvising with adhesive foam.
Anyway, I'm facing another problem: my ssd is a Samsung 960 evo PCIe NVMe and I found out that my VGA output video just do not working when the ssd pcie is connect (and enabled on BIOS), it just cannot sustain the output video for more than 2s at time.
I did a lot of tests with various displays and cables before decide to put back my Sata HDD and discovery that the VGA backs to work fine and smooth without m.2 pcie I'm saying that here to ask if somebody is already using a pcie m.2 ssd and had checked if VGA output is still working.
Another fact that I've noticed is that they use the same pci express bus 0, so, maybe because this type of ssd uses 2x more lanes of pcie, the bus has no longer bandwidth to pass analog VGA data through it? Anyway, if somenone uses that kind of hardware could tell me if everything is ok, I could be abble to define if its a problem exclusive to my machine or maybee a compatible issue not reported yet, related to BIOS firmware or even worse to the mainboard hardware project itself.
Just to register, my bios is at latest version as well as intel hd graphics 630 too.
What I used for the silicone pad was a couple layers of
cut a little narrow and short (about 18mm x 75mm) and squished down with thumb pressure before installing the M2 x 5mm screw (spec called for M2 x 3mm, but I got a box of 100 on ebay for a couple $ and the longer - #0 phillips drive - screw fit just fine, else I would've just ground/filed it shorter) to hold the drive in place.
I have enough silicone left to do at least 9 more 80mm M.2 drives if they also require 2 layers.
Don't know what to tell you about the VGA output... did you try DisplayPort, HDMI, USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt instead? e.g. I would try a USB-C to DP adapter such as amazon.com/dp/B01NBX352B (or USB-C to VGA - amazon.com/dp/B0126ZFTZM ) before springing for a WD15 dock (dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-dock-wd15-with-180w-adapter/apd/450-aeuo/pc-accessories ).
The HDMI output works fine, don't know about other options yet (DP over USB-C) nor USB-C to VGA, but you may agree that is at least curious to use an adapter when the native port is present on the machine..
Anyway, when I use a Sata disk the VGA native port works pretty good. Using PCIe NVMe SSD it just do not work in any way, any Operational System, don't matter the drive I use (tried to use the latest and the same as come from factory - on Windows 10).
It would not be a problem if I know Dell is aware of this behavior and eventually releases a note about that - saying that it will never work or saying that a future BIOS firmware update may fix it. Unfortunately there are several situations that requires me to use this old fashioned port..
I have Latitude E5470 with 500 sata Hdd and i need to upgrade it to 256 SSD
I am in saudi arabia is that possible
Have you had succes in using Samsung EVO 960 on your E5580? If so, have your VGA port still working? I'm questioning that cause my Latitude 5480 started to fail VGA output after I installed a EVO 960 on it =(
Thanks a lot for any information..
I wasn't able to get exact technical detail on the RAID behavior. However, the assumption is that the two 4X drives will run at the same performance as the 2X drive it's grouped with in the RAID 5. Same goes with RAID 0 and RAID 1.
As to your class 50 question: Drive classes and lanes are considered separate. Class 50 drives have slightly better performance than a class 40 drive. Class 40 and class 50 drives can work with either 2 lane support for 4 lane support. In other words a class 50 drive will have slightly better performance on a 2 lane port when compared with a class 40 on a 2 lane port. Same goes when you have 4 lanes and comparing performance between class 40 and 50.
Hope that makes sense.
I had the previous document I linked deleted. I now have a new document that is more clear regarding M.2 BIOS password support. Here: www.dell.com/.../no-bios-to-set-a-hard-drive-password-on-nvme-ssd
I will add it in to the original post.
I went back to Dell engineering and they confirmed that there are physical limits on the Vostro 5468 motherboard that only allow support for M.2 SATA. I've reported this fact to the documentation team and the NVME support claimed in the user's guide is going to be removed.
I will work on getting a better answer on the caching but it will take some time. I should be able to have the answer in a couple weeks, probably in the form of a brand new document outlining scope of support and the technical aspects all in one place.
Thanks very much Justin!
Interesting! thanks for the update.. if I will face any problem will contact you.