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Good day Dell Community,

Because of your questions I'm pleased to present the below information, specifications and requirements for M.2 on various Dell models.

Precision 7710,7720:

Internal dives supported: 3

Drive configurations supported ( max ): (3x M.2) or (2x M.2 and 1x 2.5inch SATA)

PCIE Lanes:

The 2 M.2 slots available are wired as 4X

The 2.5 Inch bay is wired as 2X

Parts needed to install M.2 into the dedicated M.2 slot:

1x HR8P8 thermal cover ( comes with cover and thermal pad )

1x 4270E Screw: ( Holds the cover down on top of the M.2 drive )

Parts needed to install an M.2 into the 2.5 inch bay of 7710 and 7510:

1x 745TM 2.5 inch metal bracket - most units will have this already included                               

1x Y1WJX M.2 bracket ( goes inside of 745TM )

4x 2864D M3X3 screw. Most systems will have these already included. These screws hold in the Y1WJX M.2 drive carrier, or a 2.5 inch drive into 745TM.

1x WPTND M.2 Interposer Board. This installs into Y1WJX M.2 bracket.

5x 4270E M2.0*3L screws

1x HR8P8 M.2 thermal cover

Find instructions here on the Dell Community.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    

Precision 7510, 7520:
                                                                                                                
Internal dives supported: 2
                                                                      
Drive configurations supported: (1xM.2), (1x2.5 SATA) (2xM.2) (1xM.2 and 1x2.5 SATA)
                       

PCIE Lanes:

M.2 slot supports 4X

The 2.5 Inch bay is wired as 2X

Parts needed to install an M.2 into the 2.5 inch bay are the same as the 7710 above.

Precision 5510,5520 and XPS 9550,9560:

Internal dives supported: 2

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2), (1x 2.5 SATA), (1xM.2 and 1X 2.5 SATA)

PCIE Lanes:

M.2 slot supports 4X

The 2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA

Parts needed in order to install a M.2:

1x 88DJK thermal pad ( no plate required )
1x 4270E  M2X3 screw

Parts needed in order to add a 2.5 inch drive:

1x XDYGX cable

2x 3XYT5 rubber side isolator

1x 3FDY3 metal HDD bracket ( some units may already have this installed even if a 2.5 inch drive wasn't ordered from Dell originally )

Discussed here on Dell Community.

Precision 3510:

Internal dives supported: 1

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) or (1x 2.5inch SATA)

PCIE Lanes:

M.2 slot supports 4X

2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA

Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive:

1x X3YR8  M.2 end bracket

1x 1X2MT thermal cover

2x 4270E  M2X3 screws                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Discussed here on SpiceWorks.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Precision 3520
 
Internal dives supported: 2

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) (1x 2.5inch SATA) (1x M.2 cache drive and 1x 2.5 inch drive )

PCIE Lanes:

M.2 slot supports 4X

2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA

Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive:

1x 2FFR0 end bracket

1x X3DN4 -Thermal plate

1x 4270E - End screw


 
Latitude E5270, E5470, E5570:

Internal dives supported: 1

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) or (1x 2.5inch SATA)

PCIE Lanes:

E5270 supports 2X

E5570 with H processor supports 4X

E5570 with U processor supports 2X

E5470 with H processor supports 2X

E5470 with U processor supports 2X

2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA

Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive are same as 3510 above.

Latitude 5280, 5480, 5580:

Internal dives supported: 2

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2) (1x 2.5inch SATA) (1x M.2 cache drive and 1x 2.5 inch drive )

PCIE Lanes:

E5280 supports 2X

E5580 with H processor supports 4X

E5580 with U processor supports 2X

E5480 with H processor supports 4X

E5480 with U processor supports 2X

2.5 Inch bay is wired as SATA

Parts needed to upgrade from 2.5 inch drive to M.2 drive are same as 3520 above.

 

Latitude  E7270, E7470:

Internal dives supported: 1

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2)

PCIE Lanes:

M.2 slot supports 2X

Parts Needed in order to upgrade to M.2:

1x DJ69P thermal cover

2x 4270E screw M2X3 ( most systems will have at least one of these already included )                                                                                                                                                     
Discussed here on SpiceWorks.

Latitude  7280, 7480:

Internal dives supported: 1

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2)

PCIE Lanes:

M.2 slot supports 2X

Parts Needed in order to upgrade to M.2:

1x R6TGF thermal cover

2x VJYP9 screw M2X3 ( most systems will have at least one of these already included )

XPS 13 9350/9360

Internal dives supported: 1

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2)

PCIE Lanes:

The M.2 slot available supports up to 4X

Parts needed:

1x 4270E screw M2X3

XPS 13 9365

Internal dives supported: 1

Drive configurations supported: (1x M.2)

PCIE Lanes:

The M.2 slot available supports up to 4X

Parts needed:

1x 4HP13 - Thermal plate

2x JPRFM - M1.6x2.5 screws 

Optiplex 5040, 7040 ( Mini Tower ):

Internal dives supported: 2

Drive configurations supported: (1xM.2) (2xM.2) (1xM.2 and 1x2.5) (2x2.5) (1x3.5)

PCIE Lanes:

The single on board M.2 slot supports up to 4X

The M.2 drive installed into the 2.5 inch bay: 2x

Parts needed for M.2.

On-motherboard M.2 bay:                                                                                                           
1x R7HGK thermal pad ( installs onto the motherboard under the M.2 drive )
1x YYJF8 screw M2X3.5                                                                                                         
 
2.5 inch bay with M.2:

1x 6J3FV SATA cable
1x X9FV3 M.2/2.5 inch bay adapter/caddy                                                                                     
On motherboard M.2 installation instructions found here.

OS install notes:

There's an updated storage driver (IRST F6) to include PCIE support. ( The one you have to install for Windows to see the drive during installation ):

Intel's latest

Dell package

Samsung Driver

Also see: Installing Windows 7 on a SKYLAKE system using MDThttp://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/HOW11493/en 

Obtaining an ISO image:

For some systems you can obtain Dell operating system images through Dell Hosted image

Note: not all systems and service tags will have an image available.

Note: Even though the Dell Hosted Images have USB3, they may not include the IRST driver at this time. ( some may know this at the F6 driver ). You'll need to install the IRST driver manually during the Windows install process.

Dell is currently working to add the IRST driver to the Dell Hosted Images. No ETA on when this will happen at this time.

Discussed here on SpiceWorks.

Other M.2 Articles:

Imaging M.2 Solid-State Drives in Intel Skylake chipset systems

Only 1 Solid State Drive (SSD) seen on Interposer card

SSD not detected on startup or reboot on New Precision 15 5000 (5510) or XPS 15 9550

PXE Booting with M.2 Solid State Drives

How to distinguish the differences between M.2 cards 

Justin C

Dell Technical Support

Project Sputnik member

Dell Support is also on Twitter! https://twitter.com/DellCaresPRO

 

All Replies
  • I read it ) But, under Owner's Manual in "Hard drive options" i see "This laptop supports M.2 SATA drive and M.2 NVMe drive." (www.dell.com/.../Hard-drive-options  It's manual error?

  • > It's manual error?

     

    I have no way to verify or refute that; I'm just a Dell customer.

  • Hi Justin, I recently bought a E5470 and the manual says PCIe disks can go up to 512 and I was planning on adding a 1T nvme from samsumg a 960 pro.

    will this work?

    I use Linux  

  • @JimAtLaw,

    I'm wanting to know that as well. I will work internally on your questions and get more information on that. I'll reply back when I know more.

    @ItdirectorFLLP,

    I've learned the below:

    M.2 SATA drives receive hard drive password support from the BIOS

    M.2 PCIE drives are not eligible for hard drive password support due to them running on PCIE

    Infact, while running a M.2 PCIE drive you can set the SATA operation to 'disable' and the PCIE drive will still function normally. I will have the following document updated to reflect these facts: www.dell.com/.../hard-drive-password-support-for-nvme-drives

    @Krit1412,

    I know so far that you'll need thermal pad part number HM1P2 for the 3050 Micro. This pad likely goes between the drive and the motherboard, like how it does on the 7040 and other models. I will confirm and get back with you.

    Further, it's looking like there's no screw required for the end of the M.2 drive. Instead, there's a blue tab that holds it on. Can you open your 3050 and see if your system came with this blue tab?

    @DKasparov,

    Since the online document contradicts what I've previously stated, I will work internally and get you the correct information. I will reply back when I know more.

    @Mscastro,

    Dell documents will reflect what Dell supports on any one model. That doesn't mean a certain specification outside of what is listed in our document won't work. Most advice by Dell outside of documentation will come at our best effort.

    Dell can never promise that a retail drive will work with any Dell system model. With that said, I know there are several threads out there showing compatibility issues between Dell systems and 960 drives. I've heard of owners having a lot better success when running with a PM961 with their Latitude.

    You'd simply have to try it at your own risk basically.

    Justin C

    Dell Technical Support

    Project Sputnik member

    Dell Support is also on Twitter! https://twitter.com/DellCaresPRO

     

  • > You'd simply have to try it at your own risk basically.

    Worst case scenario, if it doesn't work installed inside your computer and you can't return it,

    you can buy an enclosure like:

    amazon.com/.../B01C7G8W86

    and use it as an external drive.

    I bought one of those, installed CentOS on it...  works great even with Secure Boot, and the USB-C/Thunderbolt port is *fast*.

  • Hi Justin

    You mentioned that the Latitude 5580 supports the configuration with an 1x M.2 cache drive and 1x 2.5 inch drive. Unfortunately, i haven’t seen any Information if any additional parts are needed for this configuration. Watching a Video where the internals of the 5580 are shown ( www.youtube.com/watch ) it seems that the M.2 cache drive must be placed in the wwan slot. The space right next to the hard drive seems be blocked / to small and cannot be used. Am i making the correct assumtions?

    Forthermore I’d like to know if the “M.2 cache drive” configurations allows the os to be installed only on the ssd and the hard drive is used as an additional drive. Is this possible or can the ssd only be used a cache and not as a separate drive.

    Thanks.

  • I am also looking for the parts needed to install ssd m.2 nvme on my Latitude 5480 but could not find anywhere. Where can I ask for those itens? Dell Brazil says that they cannot help me once they don't have the references - which are all very well described on that post by the way. I'd thank any help =)

  • I'm trying to get the parts needed to do the properly fastening of my ssd on place but for now i'm improvising with adhesive foam.

    Anyway, I'm facing another problem: my ssd is a Samsung 960 evo PCIe NVMe and I found out that my VGA output video just do not working when the ssd pcie is connect (and enabled on BIOS), it just cannot sustain the output video for more than 2s at time.

    I did a lot of tests with various displays and cables before decide to put back my Sata HDD and discovery that the VGA backs to work fine and smooth without m.2 pcie Confused I'm saying that here to ask if somebody is already using a pcie m.2 ssd and had checked if VGA output is still working.

    Another fact that I've noticed is that they use the same pci express bus 0, so, maybe because this type of ssd uses 2x more lanes of pcie, the bus has no longer bandwidth to pass analog VGA data through it? Huh? Anyway, if somenone uses that kind of hardware could tell me if everything is ok, I could be abble to define if its a problem exclusive to my machine or maybee a compatible issue not reported yet, related to BIOS firmware or even worse to the mainboard hardware project itself.

    Just to register, my bios is at latest version as well as intel hd graphics 630 too.

  • @OliverNil

    What I used for the silicone pad was a couple layers of

    amazon.com/dp/B00PZMFV6G

    cut a little narrow and short (about 18mm x 75mm) and squished down with thumb pressure before installing the M2 x 5mm screw (spec called for M2 x 3mm, but I got a box of 100 on ebay for a couple $ and the longer - #0 phillips drive - screw fit just fine, else I would've just ground/filed it shorter) to hold the drive in place.

    I have enough silicone left to do at least 9 more 80mm M.2 drives if they also require 2 layers.

    Don't know what to tell you about the VGA output... did you try DisplayPort, HDMI, USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt instead?  e.g. I would try a USB-C to DP adapter such as amazon.com/dp/B01NBX352B (or USB-C to VGA - amazon.com/dp/B0126ZFTZM ) before springing for a WD15 dock (dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-dock-wd15-with-180w-adapter/apd/450-aeuo/pc-accessories ).

  • @Darr.Darr

    The HDMI output works fine, don't know about other options yet (DP over USB-C) nor USB-C to VGA, but you may agree that is at least curious to use an adapter when the native port is present on the machine..

    Anyway, when I use a Sata disk the VGA native port works pretty good. Using PCIe NVMe SSD it just do not work in any way, any Operational System, don't matter the drive I use (tried to use the latest and the same as come from factory - on Windows 10).

    It would not be a problem if I know Dell is aware of this behavior and eventually releases a note about that - saying that it will never work or saying that a future BIOS firmware update may fix it. Unfortunately there are several situations that requires me to use this old fashioned port..

  • Hello Justin

    I have Latitude E5470 with 500 sata Hdd and i need to upgrade it to 256 SSD

    I am in saudi arabia is that possible

    thanks

  • @markus15

    Have you had succes in using Samsung EVO 960 on your E5580? If so, have your VGA port still working? I'm questioning that cause my Latitude 5480 started to fail VGA output after I installed a EVO 960 on it =(

    Thanks a lot for any information..