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XPS 8700 - Which i7-4770 flavor is inside?

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Is anyone could confirm me which version of the Intel i7-4770 is shipped with the XPS 8700???

Intel produce 5 flavors http://ark.intel.com/compare/75123,75124,75125,75610,76642 of this CPU. But it is likely that the i7-4770K or i7-4770S will be found inside the new XPS 8700.

DELL support won't confirm me this info. ;-((

I need the i7-4770S flavor, for its Virtualization Technology features, as I intend to use it as an Hyper-V Server.

Can someone, which has bought an XPS 8700, can dig a bit and confirm me this info?

Much appreciate

 

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  • dzork, Judah Richardson,

    We only list them by the Dell OEM part number with limited specifications:
    KJVJH i7-4770K Haswell
    Four Cores
    Eight Threads
    8MB cache
    Clock Speed 3.50GHz
    Maximum Turbo 3.90GHz
    86W
    Socket LGA1150

    3PV04 i7-4770 Haswell
    Four Cores
    Eight Threads
    8MB cache
    Clock Speed 3.40GHz
    Maximum Turbo 3.90GHz
    86W
    Socket LGA1150

    I cannot find any VT data on the training page? Perhaps a current 8700 owner can boot into the Bios System Setup, go to Advanced- Processor Configuration and see if there is any reference to VT.

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  • Actually, comparing all the i7-4770 CPUs at the Intel site I get this table, which shows the (3PV04) i7-4770 mentioned by Chris above having all the virtualization features available to the processor family (highlighting mine):

    Based on that table, I'm not sure you need the *S model at all. The plain i7-4770 seems to have everything you could ask for. In fact, the S' only difference seems to be a lower TDP due to a lower clock speed. This would explain why it's used in the XPS 27 as you linked to. Since Dell's site specifies the letter variant for the XPS 27's CPU, the lack thereof for the XPS 8700 means that the CPU it  ships with is the plain 4770, which as I showed above has everything you need.

    Hope this helps :)

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  • Hi Dzork,

    I would like you to run Belarc advisor.  This will tell you which flavor you have.

    http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

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  • Humm, not sure if my original post wasn't clear enough.

    I DON'T have an XPS 8700 at this point. I am interested to buy one, but only if I am sure that they ship with an i7-4770S.

    That's why my question is for actual XPS 8700 owners.

    Thanks

  • dzork
    I need the i7-4770S flavor, for its Virtualization Technology features, as I intend to use it as an Hyper-V Server.

    My XPS 8500 Special Edition (i7-3770) supports all the virtualization features I want. I figure the *8700 Special Edition should have the same capabilities. Here's a dump of my CPU specs from HWiNFO64:

    HWiNFO64 Version 4.22-1970

    DELLXPS8500 ---------------------------------------------------------------

     [Current Computer]
     [Operating System]

    Central Processor(s) ------------------------------------------------------

     [CPU Unit Count]
      Number Of Processor Packages (Physical): 1
      Number Of Processors Cores:             4
      Number Of Logical Processors:           8

    Intel Core i7-3770 --------------------------------------------------------

     [General Information]
      Processor Name:                         Intel Core i7-3770
      Original Processor Frequency:           3400.0 MHz
      Original Processor Frequency [MHz]:     3400
      CPU ID:                                 000306A9
      CPU Brand Name:                         Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
      CPU Vendor:                             GenuineIntel
      CPU Stepping:                           E1
      CPU Code Name:                          Ivy Bridge-DT
      CPU S-Spec:                             SR0PK
      CPU Thermal Design Power (TDP):         77.0 W
      CPU IA Cores Thermal Design Current (TDC): 112.0 A
      CPU GT Cores Thermal Design Current (TDC): 46.0 A
      CPU Power Limits (Max):                 Power = Unlimited, Time = 8.00 sec
      CPU Power Limit 1 (Long Duration):      Power = 77.00 W, Time = 1.00 sec [Locked]
      CPU Power Limit 2 (Short Duration):     Power = 96.25 W, Time = Unlimited [Locked]
      Number of Overclocking Bins:            4
      CPU Type:                               Production Unit
      CPU Platform:                           Socket H2 (LGA1155)
      Microcode Update Revision:              12
      Number of CPU Cores:                    4
      Number of Logical CPUs:                 8
     [Operating Points]
      CPU LFM (Minimum):                      1600.0 MHz = 16.00 x 100.0 MHz
      CPU HFM (Maximum):                      3400.0 MHz = 34.00 x 100.0 MHz
      CPU Turbo:                              3900.0 MHz = 39.00 x 100.0 MHz [Locked]
      CPU Current:                            3565.1 MHz = 37.00 x 96.4 MHz @ 1.1208 V
      CPU Bus Type:                           Intel Direct Media Interface (DMI) v2.0
      Maximum DMI Link Speed:                 5.0 GT/s
      Current DMI Link Speed:                 5.0 GT/s
     [Cache and TLB]
      L1 Cache:                               Instruction: 32 KBytes, Data: 32 KBytes
      L2 Cache:                               Integrated: 256 KBytes
      L3 Cache:                               8 MBytes
      Instruction TLB:                        2MB/4MB Pages, Fully associative, 8 entries
      Data TLB:                               4 KB Pages, 4-way set associative, 64 entries
     [Standard Feature Flags]
      FPU on Chip                             Present
      Enhanced Virtual-86 Mode                Present
      I/O Breakpoints                         Present
      Page Size Extensions                    Present
      Time Stamp Counter                      Present
      Pentium-style Model Specific Registers  Present
      Physical Address Extension              Present
      Machine Check Exception                 Present
      CMPXCHG8B Instruction                   Present
      APIC On Chip / PGE (AMD)                Present
      Fast System Call                        Present
      Memory Type Range Registers             Present
      Page Global Feature                     Present
      Machine Check Architecture              Present
      CMOV Instruction                        Present
      Page Attribute Table                    Present
      36-bit Page Size Extensions             Present
      Processor Number                        Not Present
      CLFLUSH Instruction                     Present
      Debug Trace and EMON Store              Not Present
      Internal ACPI Support                   Present
      MMX Technology                          Present
      Fast FP Save/Restore (IA MMX-2)         Present
      Streaming SIMD Extensions               Present
      Streaming SIMD Extensions 2             Present
      Self-Snoop                              Present
      Multi-Threading Capable                 Present
      Automatic Clock Control                 Present
      IA-64 Processor                         Not Present
      Signal Break on FERR                    Present
      Streaming SIMD Extensions 3             Present
      Carryless Multiplication (PCLMULQDQ)/GFMUL Present
      64-Bit Debug Store                      Not Present
      MONITOR/MWAIT Support                   Not Present
      CPL Qualified Debug Store               Not Present
      Virtual Machine Extensions              Not Present
      Safer Mode Extensions (Intel TXT)       Not Present
      Thermal Monitor 2                       Present
      Supplemental Streaming SIMD Extensions 3 Present
      Enhanced SpeedStep Technology           Present
      L1 Context ID                           Not Present
      IA32 Debug Interface Support            Not Present
      Fused Multiply Add                      Not Present
      CMPXCHG16B Support                      Present
      Send Task Priority Messages Disabling   Present
      Performance/Debug Capability MSR        Not Present
      Processor Context ID                    Not Present
      Direct Cache Access                     Not Present
      Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1           Present
      Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2           Present
      Extended xAPIC                          Not Present
      MOVBE Instruction                       Not Present
      POPCNT Instruction                      Present
      TSC-deadline Timer                      Not Present
      AES Cryptography Support                Present
      XSAVE/XRSTOR/XSETBV/XGETBV Instructions Present
      XGETBV/XSETBV OS Enabled                Present
      AVX Support                             Present
      Float16 Instructions                    Present
      Random Number Read Instruction          Present
     [Extended Feature Flags]
      64-bit Extensions                       Present
      RDTSCP and TSC_AUX Support              Present
      1 GB large page support                 Not Present
      No Execute                              Present
      SYSCALL/SYSRET Support                  Present
      Read/Write FS/GS Base Instructions      Present
      TSC_THREAD_OFFSET                       Not Present
      Bit Manipulation Instructions Set 1     Not Present
      Hardware Lock Elision                   Not Present
      AVX2 Instructions                       Not Present
      Supervisor Mode Execution Protection    Present
      Bit Manipulation Instructions Set 2     Not Present
      Enhanced Performance String Instruction Present
      INVPCID Instruction                     Not Present
      Restricted Transactional Memory         Not Present
      Cache QoS Monitoring                    Not Present
      Deprecated FPU CS and FPU DS            Not Present
      Memory Protection Extensions            Not Present
      Advanced Vector Extensions 512 (AVX-512) Not Present
      RDSEED Instruction                      Not Present
      Multi-precision Add Carry Instructions  Not Present
      Supervisor Mode Access Prevention (SMAP) Not Present
      Intel Processor Trace                   Not Present
      AVX-512 Prefetch Instructions           Not Present
      AVX-512 Exponential and Reciprocal Instructions Not Present
      AVX-512 Conflict Detection Instructions Not Present
      Secure Hash Algorithm (SHA) Extensions  Not Present
     [Enhanced Features]
      Thermal Monitor 1:                      Supported, Enabled
      Thermal Monitor 2:                      Supported, Enabled
      Enhanced Intel SpeedStep (GV3):         Supported, Enabled
      Bi-directional PROCHOT#:                Enabled
      Extended Auto-HALT State C1E:           Enabled
      Extended Stop Grant State C2E:          N/A
      Enhanced Halt State C3E:                N/A
      Enhanced Halt State C4E:                N/A
      Enhanced Halt State Hard C4E:           N/A
      Hardware Prefetcher:                    Not Supported
      DCU Prefetcher:                         Not Supported
      IP Prefetcher:                          Not Supported
      Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch:           Not Supported
      MLC Streamer Prefetcher                 Supported, Enabled
      MLC Spatial Prefetcher                  Supported, Enabled
      DCU Streamer Prefetcher                 Supported, Enabled
      DCU IP Prefetcher                       Supported, Enabled
      Intel Dynamic Acceleration (IDA) Technology: Not Supported
      Intel Dynamic FSB Switching:            Not Supported
      Enhanced Multi Threaded Thermal Management: N/A
      Intel Turbo Boost Technology:           Supported, Enabled
      Programmable Ratio Limits:              Not Supported
      Programmable TDC/TDP Limits:            Supported, Disabled
     [CPU IVB Features]
      Internal Graphics:                      Supported
      PEG Gen2 (5.0 GT/s):                    Supported
      DMI Gen2 (5.0 GT/s):                    Supported
      DMI Width:                              x2
      VT-d:                                   Supported
      ECC:                                    Not Supported
      DDR Overclocking:                       Not Supported
      IA Overclocking:                        Not Supported
      On-die DDR Write Vref Generation:       Supported
      DDR3L:                                  Not Supported
      DDR Write Vref:                         Supported
      Dual Channel:                           Supported
      2 DIMMS per Channel:                    Supported
      Camarillo Device:                       Not Supported
      Full ULT Information:                   Supported
      DDR 1N Mode Timings:                    Supported
      PEG x16 Port:                           Supported
      Link width upconfig:                    Supported
      DDR3 Frequency Support (133 MHz RefClk): 800 MHz (DDR3-1600)
      DDR3 Frequency Support (100 MHz RefClk): 800 MHz (DDR3-1600)
      Memory Size per Channel:                Unlimited (16GB)
      Additive Graphics:                      Supported
      Additive Graphics:                      Disabled
      PAVP:                                   Enabled
      HDCP:                                   Supported
      PCIe Gen 3:                             Supported
      Soft Bin:                               Not Supported
      SMT:                                    Supported
     [Memory Ranges]
      Maximum Physical Address Size:          36-bit (64 GBytes)
      Maximum Virtual Address Size:           48-bit (256 TBytes)
     [MTRRs]
      Range 0-800000000 (0MB-32768MB) Type:   Write Back (WB)
      Range 800000000-810000000 (32768MB-33024MB) Type: Write Back (WB)
      Range 810000000-818000000 (33024MB-33152MB) Type: Write Back (WB)
      Range 818000000-81C000000 (33152MB-33216MB) Type: Write Back (WB)
      Range 81C000000-81E000000 (33216MB-33248MB) Type: Write Back (WB)
      Range 81E000000-81F000000 (33248MB-33264MB) Type: Write Back (WB)
      Range E0000000-100000000 (3584MB-4096MB) Type: Uncacheable (UC)

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  • dzork, Judah Richardson,

    We only list them by the Dell OEM part number with limited specifications:
    KJVJH i7-4770K Haswell
    Four Cores
    Eight Threads
    8MB cache
    Clock Speed 3.50GHz
    Maximum Turbo 3.90GHz
    86W
    Socket LGA1150

    3PV04 i7-4770 Haswell
    Four Cores
    Eight Threads
    8MB cache
    Clock Speed 3.40GHz
    Maximum Turbo 3.90GHz
    86W
    Socket LGA1150

    I cannot find any VT data on the training page? Perhaps a current 8700 owner can boot into the Bios System Setup, go to Advanced- Processor Configuration and see if there is any reference to VT.

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  • Thanks for posting your specs.

    I have looked up the comparaison for the i7-3770 flavors. ark.intel.com/.../65719,65523,65524,65525

    In the i7-3770 series, there is on i7-3770 model which has very much the same features as the i7-3770S flavor. However, as in th case of the i7-4770 series, the 'K' model has left features the the 'S' model.

    You're right about your i7-3770 Virtualization features. It has the same ones as the 'S' model. Unfortunately, I have to decide between the 'S' and 'K' model in the i7-4770 series, and not the i7-3770 series.

    Thanks again for posting your specs. I had once an XPS, a few year ago, and I was quite impressed with its performances. I just want to make the right decisions before enjoying my next one.

  • Chris,

    It's sad that DELL won't go into giving more info about the CPU shipped within the XPS 8700 machine, as they do for the XPS 27 All-In-One.

    If you go on the "Specs" tab of this page  www.dell.com/.../pd  you will find:

    >>>

    Processor

    4th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-4430S processor (6M Cache, up to 3.2 GHz)

    4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4770S processor (8M Cache, up to 3.9 GHz)

    >>>

    Thanks for giving me the specs. This is what I though. They ship with the 'K' flavor.

  • Actually, comparing all the i7-4770 CPUs at the Intel site I get this table, which shows the (3PV04) i7-4770 mentioned by Chris above having all the virtualization features available to the processor family (highlighting mine):

    Based on that table, I'm not sure you need the *S model at all. The plain i7-4770 seems to have everything you could ask for. In fact, the S' only difference seems to be a lower TDP due to a lower clock speed. This would explain why it's used in the XPS 27 as you linked to. Since Dell's site specifies the letter variant for the XPS 27's CPU, the lack thereof for the XPS 8700 means that the CPU it  ships with is the plain 4770, which as I showed above has everything you need.

    Hope this helps :)

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  • EDIT: Short story - the XPS 8700 will be able to support all the Hyper-V & VT features you want

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  • Thank you very much Judah, for enlightening me about the existence of the 'i7-4770' model. I didn't include it in my comparaison list. I don't know why I haven't found anything on it before. ;-(

    Well, you're right. The straight i7-4770 share the same virtuaization features of fhe 'S' model. Especially, the "Directed I/O (VT-d)", which is missing in the 'K' model.

    I may take a chance, and order a XPS 8700, and be praying it won't ship with the 'K' model.

    Thanks again for the very quick reply. I'm amazed how quick people have responded to this question of mine.

  • dzork
    I may take a chance, and order a XPS 8700, and be praying it won't ship with the 'K' model.

    It won't. As I said previously, Dell's Tech Specs pages specify the CPU as Intel does, using the exact same words. Therefore, if the Tech Specs page says the XPS 8700 ships with an i7-4770 CPU, then that's what you'll get. Period :)


    Glad to help!

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  • I got XPS 8700 recently and it does not support Intel Virtualization Technology.

    Very disappointing.

  • Looks like the BIOS does not support VT-x. CPU supports it.

    My XPS 8700 has model: Dell 0KWVT8, chipset Intel Z87 (Lynx point).

  • help ,,, how do I use the cd/br player on this thing thanks
  • I would like to by a DELL XPS 8700 and want to make sure it can run Hyper-V. I donwloaded the manual from DELL's web site and found in the BIOS menu the ability to enable the virtualisation feature. Does anyone have been able to run Hyper-V on this PC? Thanks for your help.
  • Hyper-V works fine for me.

    I have posted the BIOS info earlier.

    The computer is shipped with Windows 8. You need Windows 8 Pro to run Hyper-V.