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Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Hi All,

I have a Dell Latitude E6400 I received a few days ago.
I have the "clicking" noise from my hard drive. This problem was already analyzed, and the root cause is the Seagate hard Drive.
See the complete post about it:http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19248285/19395113.aspx

There is a firmware update that is supposed to fix this.
The file is called: R211337.EXE and it can be downloaded from here:
http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&ServiceTag=&SystemID=LAT_E6400&os=WLH&osl=en&catid=&impid=

Under SATA Drives -> Seagate - Hardware

I have downloaded the file to my PC. It runs a self extract that creates: "Seagate Utility.iso"
I then burned this onto a CD, inserted to the E6400 drive and rebooted.

The problem is that the upgrade does not work.
I am getting the following output (I omitted the Serial number of the Drive):
"
Binary Download
Attempting to read binary file: DE17.LOD
Invalid data
Resetting device...
Model ST9250410ASG SN
Exit With Code 0
"

I have tried burning it on another PC, used a few types of burning software and a few drives. Nothing helped.

Note:
I know for sure that my drive is ST9250410ASG  (ran the Seagate diagnose utility from Windows XP)

I don't have a floppy drive.

Any help would be much appreciated!
John

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

See if they will send you a new one with the image and backup and windows7 installed on it. That will help you by not looking for drivers.

 

bimki:

I'm before 21 day :) So, I'll let You know tommorow in the evening.

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=168425&highlight=clicking+noise
Clicking Noise issue *resolved*

Update2: For all the Vista users (mostly x64), please follow the suggestions by deadsimpleand use hdparm if you don't want to deal with the constant "screen brightness" issues that NHC has with vista.

Update: This solution has been proven to work with Western Digital and Toshiba Hard Drives in addition to Seagate. Several users reported success while applying the following steps. I can only recommend this to everyone who wants to max out the performance of their HDD and get rid of the annoying clicking sound.

Well finally after waiting 6 weeks, I got my inspiron 1520 on Monday.
I have an AUO screen (fortunately not the grainy one, unfortunately with some bad leakage on top/bottom, but tolerable), and my headphone jack is working correctly. The CPU Whine is sorta gone after installing XP.

But just as I thought I got lucky, I heard it....a permanent clicking noise coming from the hard drive accompanied by the LED light of the HDD.

But before I present you with the solution, my specs:

# Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T7300 (2.0 GHz/4MB L2 Cache)
# OS: Microsoft XP Professional
# Hard Drive: Seagate 160 GB SATA @ 5400RPM
# Screen: 15.4" WXGA+ Widescreen (1440 x 900) AUO 2077
# Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 256MB
# RAM: 2.0GB DDR2 SDRAM @667 MHz (2 x 1GB)
# Optical Drive: 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/Double Layer Support
# Battery: 6-cell lithium ion
# Wireless: Intel 3945 ABG

Purchase price: $ 1,013

So, after spending countless hours researching the internet for a solution to the clickingsound of the HDD while being idle, I nearly gave up.

Then I recalled a handy little tool I used a while back with my old acer laptop.

Notebook Hardware Control.

Since I identified the clicking noise as "HDD head parking", I knew the drive wasn't failing (and ofc I ran every possible HDD health check utility) so the only thing I needed now was a utility to change the acoustic management setting of the drive. And you guessed it, Seagate didn't offer anything like that. Thank you Seagate.

But lets get to the solution:
1. Download the NHC 2.0 Pre-Release 06 (Dell version)
2. Download and install Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 (if you don't have it installed)
3. Install NHC
4. Run NHC
5. Go to the newly appeared icon in your system tray and doubleclick (it's the one with the CPU frequency...so don't confuse it with the RMclock one)
6. In the window that just appeared select the Settings tab
7. Click Show all NHC options and settings
8. Now select the Hard Disk tab, and under Advanced Power Management select the highest setting: Max. Peformance Mode

Voila, the constant clicking sound is gone for good. Have fun.

PS: Ofc you can play around with the settings. Hope this solves the issue for many inspiron users out there.

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

and won't this run your battery down faster? I only get 1  1/2 hrs at best now with it set at balanced.

You should not have to jump through hoops on this one. Not that many are computer literate to do the above. No reason for it since Dell needs to make it good

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Hi All,

This problem was fixed by Dell giving me a new drive.

I checked, and both (the clicking and the quiet one) had the same firmware version : 3SDM1 (or 0003SDM1)

I don't know if the new drive I got is new or refurbished (how can I check it?)

But I don't really care as this is a company laptop...


Good Luck!

John


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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Hi,

super :)

did You have to reinstall windows or they've copied all data from old drive to new one?

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Bimki, after hours on the phone the supervisor of techs agreed to send me a refurb drive. I said no I wanted new since this ticking was a known problem for a long time and they should not have continued to use SG. Finally they agreed to send me a drive but BLANK. Now think about this, blank drive means you backup your files, then install Vista OS, then reinstall your files and then wait on the win7 update to get to you via mail (who knows when that will be).

Next step, Win7 upgrade comes in and you have to backup your files again. Install Win7 and hope you don't lose any files. Possibility you have to reinstall some files from your backup.

Since all this is work, and time I told them I wanted a drive along with the win7 complete cd so I only hd to backup one time and restore files one time. They said this could not be done. Since win7 is out now and they are building new computers with it and sending the cds out with the computers I don't see why they can't do this.

At this point I am waiting for someone from the escalating team to call me back regarding this. I only got this computer the end of Sept. and reported this problem within the return time.

On the other side of the coin I am thrilled with the computer today. I dl, and avi file and was able to play it hdmi on my tv. perfectly along with the sound coming out of the tv. I want to keep this computer just not the intermittent clicking.

Keep us posted what you do and I will do the same.

 

bimki:

Hi,

super :)

did You have to reinstall windows or they've copied all data from old drive to new one?

regards

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Bimki, after hours on the phone the supervisor of techs agreed to send me a refurb drive. I said no I wanted new since this ticking was a known problem for a long time and they should not have continued to use SG. Finally they agreed to send me a drive but BLANK. Now think about this, blank drive means you backup your files, then install Vista OS, then reinstall your files and then wait on the win7 update to get to you via mail (who knows when that will be).

Next step, Win7 upgrade comes in and you have to backup your files again. Install Win7 and hope you don't lose any files. Possibility you have to reinstall some files from your backup.

Since all this is work, and time I told them I wanted a drive along with the win7 complete cd so I only hd to backup one time and restore files one time. They said this could not be done. Since win7 is out now and they are building new computers with it and sending the cds out with the computers I don't see why they can't do this.

At this point I am waiting for someone from the escalating team to call me back regarding this. I only got this computer the end of Sept. and reported this problem within the return time.

On the other side of the coin I am thrilled with the computer today. I dl, and avi file and was able to play it hdmi on my tv. perfectly along with the sound coming out of the tv. I want to keep this computer just not the intermittent clicking.

Keep us posted what you do and I will do the same.

 

bimki:

Hi,

super :)

did You have to reinstall windows or they've copied all data from old drive to new one?

regards

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Hi,

I can't comment on Dell consumer support policies (if you get an OS re-installed etc.) as the laptop is maintained by our IT staff, so they took care of re-imaging it.

The reason I tried solving this problem using this forum (without our IT contacting Dell Corporate support to replace the drive) is that I was hoping I did not have to do all the customizations\installations again.

Regards,

John

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

John, that is one of the reasons that I want an imaged drive with win7 on it. I don't think that I would know all the drivers etc. to dl. Being 72 years old it might be a challange. I used to be able to do all this but sometimes now I tend to forget.

The way the computer works now is wonderful and I don't want to mess anything up. I might just go with hearing the clicking sound as it is intermittent and not all the time.

Thanks for the reply.

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You did a lot better then me. I still have not gotten it resolved. The supervisor refuses to give me a new drive. I finally said I would accept a refurbished if it had the windows 7 on it along with the windows 7 cd in so I would not have to keep backing up files and restoring them with new drives with vista installed and then go through an upgrade to win7. They have refused and insist on me using the file posted that was mentioned in this thread to correct the problem. If you look at the firmware file it does not apply to a Studio xps 1640 or my hd.

Dell strikes again.

Meggie

darthrussard:

The phone conversation went a lot better then I thought it would. They tried the refurb drive option and I said no way I want brand new drives since the laptops were just purchased. There's like a 21 day policy she said that if the hardware is defective within those days they will replace it.  I'm past the 21 days by a few days but since all 5 laptops set in my office for 2 weeks before I unpacked them they offered to replace the drives with new ones and I didn't have to push too hard. I'm just hoping the new drives will work good. The drives will be blank which is fine because I create my own images! I'll send another update once I get the new drives and test them.

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You did a lot better then me. I still have not gotten it resolved. The supervisor refuses to give me a new drive. I finally said I would accept a refurbished if it had the windows 7 on it along with the windows 7 cd in so I would not have to keep backing up files and restoring them with new drives with vista installed and then go through an upgrade to win7. They have refused and insist on me using the file posted that was mentioned in this thread to correct the problem. If you look at the firmware file it does not apply to a Studio xps 1640 or my hd.

Dell strikes again.

Meggie

darthrussard:

The phone conversation went a lot better then I thought it would. They tried the refurb drive option and I said no way I want brand new drives since the laptops were just purchased. There's like a 21 day policy she said that if the hardware is defective within those days they will replace it.  I'm past the 21 days by a few days but since all 5 laptops set in my office for 2 weeks before I unpacked them they offered to replace the drives with new ones and I didn't have to push too hard. I'm just hoping the new drives will work good. The drives will be blank which is fine because I create my own images! I'll send another update once I get the new drives and test them.

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Got the new drives installed and imaged finally. They were the exact same drives that came with the laptops. They make the clicking sounds off and on but not like before so I'm wondering now if it's just a bad batch of drives in the assembly line some people are getting. Dell is really getting bad in their support. They have such a huge customer base they really do not care if a client chooses another vendor. I think the drives are fine but I know the second I deploy one people will speak up about the sound. I'm going to have to call them back but it will be in a few days unfortunately.

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

I still have not resolved my problem. Dell offered to give me my money back but I want to get the computer right. I think I made a big mistake. My daughter was here yesterday with her Tob...a and it works like a charm.

I was told by a tech that Dell had ordered a number of the Seagates and until they are used up they will continue to use them. After that Seagate will correct the problem in their new drives to Dell. So yes, it is all at this time a "bad' if you want to call it that batch of Seagate drives. My drive does not click constantly just at times and I can't pinpoint what starts it up.

The tech wanted me to install a firmware update. Good thing I didn't since when I read the specs on it it was not for a 1640. So now we are on hold again. It used to be you could reason with Dell and get a resolution to problems but that is no longer true.

I am tired of dealing with them and hearing the "stories" that I know are not true. Next computer will not be a Dell.

Hope you get your problem fixed. How dumb to send out another Seagate knowing you would have the same problems.

 

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

Today they've send me Fujitsu MHZ2250BJ in place of  Seagate ST9250410AS.

As I saw benchamarks http://www.notebookcheck.com/Notebook-Festplatten-HDD-SSD-Vergleich.22087.0.html Fujitsu is slower then segate and has just 8MB cache...

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Re: Seagate Momentus Firmware update problem (to fix clicking noise)

I still like the WD or Hitachi drives the best. Seems like Dell is trying to save money and lower their quality by putting in cheaper products. Sometimes cheaper does not save money as this thread and others about Seagates made for Dell proves. I am sure they have lost money on returns and time spent trying to correct the problems. Being Seagate doesn't appear to be concerned in helping Dell and Dell has to use up the drives they have lots of money was thrown out the windows.

 

bimki:

Today they've send me Fujitsu MHZ2250BJ in place of  Seagate ST9250410AS.

As I saw benchamarks http://www.notebookcheck.com/Notebook-Festplatten-HDD-SSD-Vergleich.22087.0.html Fujitsu is slower then segate and has just 8MB cache...

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