Dell Dimension DXP061 XPS 410 PSU help and Nvidia Graphics card upgrade help

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Dell Dimension DXP061 XPS 410 PSU help and Nvidia Graphics card upgrade help

  • Hi Guys,

    Please help me out here with some informaton as I have been looking all over but cannot find any specfic information about Dell Dimension DXP061 PSU and compatibility with Nvidia cards.

    Currently my system is this  

    Dell Dimension DXP061 on XP home the manual calls it XPS 410
    Intel Core 2Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40 MHz, 2.39 GHz, 2GB of Ram

    Right now I have a Dell KH624 (L375P-00) supply obviously rated for 375 watts max


    I am interested in upgrading the ram to 4 GB and a graphics card upgrade. I bought this computer primarly for old flight sims like Falcon Allied Force

    2 years ago and really dont play any newer games. I am interested in using Flight simulator 10 if possible with my system.

    This is the card that I have NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 256Mb

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130297&Tpk=NVIDIA%20GeForce%208600%20GT%20256Mb

    and I am interested in getting one of these cards

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130434
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130370

    Please let me know if they are compatible with my system and power supply? I don't think they are but want to make sure.  What kind of a PSU upgrade is recomended for these cards and that will work with my pc?

    Will dell upgrade the PSU and graphics card that are not bought from them (for an extra charge)?

    I am sure this may have been answered before but I can't find any topic when I use search feature.

    help please

    Ed 

  • IMO your card choices will require a PSU upgrade.  Any standard ATX psu will do, I put this in my 410: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018 

    As for the card I'd look at the GTX275 for about $50 more as the increase in performance will be worth it.

    If you decide to upgrade the psu you'll have to remove the processor to get to some of the existing psu cables.  Make sure you read up on how to do this so you'll know how to apply the paste required for processor cooling when you put the processor back.  The below link shows an AMD processor change but the procedure is basically the same for intel.  You can google more info if needed.

    http://www.fonerbooks.com/r_cpu.htm

    I upgraded my video card and psu at the same time, took about an hour from start to finish.  You may want to get a modualr PSU as you only need to attach the cables you need making cable management a bit easier but even with all the cables my card runs cool as long as I adjust the fan speed with EVGA Precision tool.  Riva tuner also works.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_Power_Supply_Unit

     

     

  • Hi thank you so much for your suggestions. I had this power supply in mind PPCS500D 500 Watt Dell Power Supply

    http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cat=prod&cs=19&k=Silencer+500+Dell&rpp=12&p=1&rf=all&nk=f&ira=False&~srd=False&ipsys=False&advsrch=False&~ck=tab

    do you recommend this one or the one you recomended? I will NOT be doing this on my own as I have never done an upgrade of any sort. I will be likely taking this to comp usa or whatever to have it done.

    Now, I have been told by people that with my processors there will be a bottle neck effect as they will limit the cards like gtx 260 or up maybe even 9800 GTX+

    so here is the real question with my processors (i posted specs above) should I just upgade the ram to 4GB and a simple card like GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3, which I know for a fact can be run by my current psu or

    upgrade the ram to 4GB with PSU upgarde to accomodate 9800 GTX+ or up. Probably gtx 260

    I mean how much of a difference with my CURRENT cpu is this ram+ psu + gtx 260 is going to make? compared to just ram+8800 GTS?

    if the difference on my system with existing cpu is only going to be like 15-20% within these two options then I see no point in spending all the extra money for the card and psu. If the difference between these two options is 50% or more than sure that is good!

    Also see this post http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19257211/19507040.aspx#19507040 they seem to suggest that 9800GTX+ will work without a psu upgrade (original 375W Dell PSU KH624 (L375P-00) is that correct?

    let me know your thoughts or anyone else. :)

  • PC power and cooling produces a great psu and the one you selected will be fine.  As for the 8800gts 512 I think you need a bit more card for flight sim (If it's the latest sim.  If not the 8800 GTS 512 will be fine)  and yes the stock 375 psu works great with 8800. 

    As for bottle necks, many claim lower end processor's bottle neck higer end gpu's.  I say the gain you receive with a newer card even with an old processor  far out weighs not upgrading.  Believe me I've done this numerous times and was always very happy with the results.  Right now I'm running a core 2 duo 6600 with a 285gtx and it absolutely screams through anything with the exception of course Crysis which is still very playable.  BTW, top end rigs still get wooped by the original Crysis.

    If you can afford it I'd go with at least a 700watt psu and the 275.  I'm sure what ever you decide to do you'll be happy.

  • Hi,

    can you please confirm if  9800 GTX+ will run with my psu?

    as i mentioned above please check this thread also http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19257211/19507040.aspx#19507040 they seem to suggest that 9800GTX+ does NOT require a psu upgrade.

    thanks

  • From the included link it appears to have worked with the stock psu in another 410.  Don't see why it wouldn't work in yours.

  • hello uncle ripper or anyone who can help

     

    I went with your advice and got the best I could afford at the time and it is 750w silnecer psu and gtx260 OC version. Since you have upgraded your psu and run even a more powerful card on xps 410. Can you please post some pictures or tell me how to fit these things because from the top down view in the begining they seem impossible. Especially the card.

    I have seen people on internet fir gtx280 also in xps410 see here http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=284934

    but is anything done to the card first because it is so much thick and then when in this thread (above) it is fitted it looks like just the card board itself as opposed to with covering.

     

    can you please some pictures of how you have done this or how to fit these in? If not is there any harm if I remove all the parts in open? There is noone else in my apt and no animals so its all safe and I dont move the cpu.

    please let me know

    thanks

    ed

  • Actually since I upgraded I've built a complete new system using some of the 410 parts so no pictures are available.  The process is really simple and once it's done you like myself will be suprised.  You do need to remove the cpu cooler to get the old psu out so you'll need to get some thermal paste.  To clean off the old thermal paste use rubbing alchohol.  I tucked the extra psu wires into the open space under the dvd drives.  My gtx285 fit with no problem so I'm sure wahtever card you have will fit. Just take your time and have fun, really it's a breeze.  BTW, you may want to take some pictures of existing wiring so you'll know where the new wires go. 

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    Re: Dell Dimension DXP061 XPS 410 PSU help and Nvidia Graphics card upgrade help
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    hello uncle ripper or anyone who can help
     
    I went with your advice and got the best I could afford at the time and it is 750w silnecer psu and gtx260 OC version. Since you have upgraded your psu and run even a more powerful card on xps 410. Can you please post some pictures or tell me how to fit these things because from the top down view in the begining they seem impossible. Especially the card.
    I have seen people on internet fir gtx280 also in xps410 see here http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=284934
    but is anything done to the card first because it is so much thick and then when in this thread (above) it is fitted it looks like just the card board itself as sopposed to with covering.
     
    can you please some pictures of how you have done this or how to fit these in? If not is there any harm if I remove all the parts in open? There is noone else in my apt and no animals so its all safe and I dont move the cpu.
    please let me know
    thanks
    ed
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  • I am using nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 512Mb. It works great. Index score is 4.8. And I am using an unsuported Pentium 4 CoreDuo 3.0 Ghz. And 2 2Gig. memory cards.