Rampant Speculation on the XPS 700

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Rampant Speculation on the XPS 700

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Several of you have been asking specifically about the NVIDIA 590 chipset and the XPS 700. Other recent forums entries like Tom’s Hardware and CNET contain some misinformation that needs to be cleared up.

What’s driving some of this speculation? For starters, our chipset had been identified incorrectly by two different utilities available to the public, nTune and CPU-Z. These screenshots from a Dell Community Forum user show what I'm talking about. Bottom line, we’ve fixed the error with NVIDIA and we’re working with NVIDIA to ensure future applications identify the chipset correctly. Regarding third-party utilities such as CPU-Z, we’re looking into why these applications are misreporting the chipset. Also, contributing to this speculation is that a Dell rep allegedly gave customers erroneous information about the chipset. I wasn’t able to verify that actually happened. If it did, the information shared is incorrect.

Here’s the deal: the XPS 700 utilizes the NVIDIA 590 chipset. The reports about it being a hybrid version are all wrong, period. One of the main performance enhancements of the 590 chipset is that it offers two full-bandwidth, 16-lane PCI Express links to ensure maximum graphics performance. The XPS 700 fully supports this. Is it our own implementation? Yes. What does that mean? Just like NVIDIA’s Brian Del Rizzo said in the Tom’s Hardware post, we chose not to support some of the core features NVIDIA built into the media and communications “southbridge” controller. Why? To ensure standardization across our product line, we replaced NVIDIA’s DualNet and FirstPacket communications technologies (two features of the on-chip networking solution on the chipset) with the networking solution that we use on all our products to ensure better compatibility across different product families. Another example, we chose not to implement NVIDIA’s SLI-Ready Memory feature because Extended SPD supported memory was not available when XPS 700 was in development as it is proprietary and not yet an industry standard. See NVIDIA’s nForce 590 product page for more explanation of these features and more

For folks that are concerned about future upgradeability, note that the XPS 700 is the first system we’ve introduced that was designed to support an industry-standard BTX system board down the road. This means if you want to swap out the system board down the road, to accommodate future technology, you can. Some custom cables are required for certain connections.

Several of you are also asking how the SoundBlaster X-Fi card that we sell differs from the retail version. From a hardware perspective, it doesn’t. Speculation around this varies: that we don’t offer hardware support for Dolby Digital, that we only support it via software, or that we don’t support it at all. The real answer: we do support Dolby 5.1, we don’t support DTS.

Why don’t we use the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi’s retail software package for Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS? Because of compatibility issues between Creative’s retail package and Sonic’s playback software. Dell supports Dolby Digital 5.1 playback through Sonic CinePlayer. This means that customers with an appropriate speaker setup and the X-Fi card can listen to a Dolby Digital 5.1 source automatically. Dolby Digital 5.1 does not need hardware acceleration features enabled by the Sound Blaster X-Fi. Hardware acceleration for games that enable EAX, CMSS-3D, and 24-bit Crystalizer are all supported, just as they are with the retail card. DTS is not currently supported by the Sonic CinePlayer.

On that same CNET post, there was a question about our XPS Support queue. Can’t speak to the issue directly since it doesn’t share many details, but I can say that the XPS Support phone queue is available 24/7. Customers who purchase three or four year at-home service contracts with their systems can opt for night and weekend on-site support. See this link for more details.

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  • Kaz,

    I probably shouldn't butt in here, but how many more people bought the XPS 700 that that 3D scanner?  

    I may be way off base on this but my guess it quite a few.  

    Dell needs to get things back on track, but it is a lot easier to contact 500 customers than it is 50000.

    Yes Dell should be able to do it, but we know they are having problems and working on them, give them time to get it worked out.
  • Lionel,

    My computer went into production ("build") already (or so says the webpage) and I never received a call regarding the upgrade and the processor listed is the Pentium D 960.  I am a Latin America customer -- Puerto Rico.  The order page reflects that the computer will be shipped on November 16, 2006.

    Is there anything I can do about this?

    Thanks in advance.

    Best regards,

    RCamara
  • Are you EVER going to tell me why people who ordered and reordered after my dates are getting their systems built and shipped BEFORE mine?

    That's unfair, isn't it?
  • Hey I just read David Marshall's comment and wanted to say something. All this trash talk is annoying. I was looking myself for the right memory to put in my XPS 700 byo. All I did to make sure I got the right thing was go to Nvidia's website and look at the specs for the 950 chipset (which Is the best for gaming on the market right now). It clearly says that it supports up to 667mhz memory. I wish people would stop whining when they can't even use their own brain and figure things out for themselves.
  • Based on what I have seen in relation to the XPS 700 you guys would not be permited to do bussiness on E-Bay.  You advertise a product you don't have, can't build and if you get a couple out there not as described.  This is the worst online transaction I have ever been involved with.
  • Here is an easy question for the XPS team.  Have you stopped building XPS 700s again?  It appears that there have been little to no reports of systems going into kitting since Tuesday.  This leads us to "speculate" that Dell has stopped production AGAIN.  Simple communication to us would stop any speculation on our part.
  • Try again:

    Serial ports are on business and professional notebooks because many customers might use an app tht requires a dongle attached to the serial port. Also, lots of equipment and controls such as switches, servers, storage, custom devices require a serial console connection for administration and management, inculding initial setup of a web management port. That is why on a Precsion notebook you will have serial and parallel ports. It does have a VGA port, but no DVI port. I believe the docking bay has a DVI capability though.
  • More speculation...
    I've been in production over a week with no change in status... Does this mean that XPS 700 Production is halted again?  If so, what for this time, if not, then why isn't the status changing..

    From what I can tell on the forums, many people have been stuck in production status since August 17th with not changes.  

    Did Dell just put everyone's orders into production so people would think progress was being made?  What gives??

    Romills
  • Motherboard Upgrade??

    Please, this is THE most important issue for me at this time. As dell has crippled the nvidia bios, whatever the motherboard is, I want to replace it. I like the rest of this comptuter, for the most part. Please tell me, dell, where I can find a BACKWARDS motherboard to put into my xps 700. Where in heaven can I find a motherboard to fit into this thing? Nowhere, except possibly from dell.

    -Sage
  • Brandon,

    Part of the problem many of the current XPS700 customers have had with Dell is that many of the features listed on Nvidia's site are not available on the XPS 700.  I suggest reading the blog's here and the threads in Dell's community forum about the XPS 700.  While Dell is using the 590 Chipsets, they have also made decisions to replace or remove features.  Based on this, I would not recommend using Nvidia's Specs to determine what the XPS 700 will be capable of.

    One good thing I can say about what Dell is doing now, they are finally clarifing some of the XPS 700 specs with regard to the 590 and X-Fi (D) card.  It would have been nice if they could of clarified them from the start, some might have thought that Dell was being intentially vague .  I can only hope Dell has learned more about there targeted XPS 700 customers and will be use this to do better in the future.  They clearly have a long way to go.

    Regards,
    Romills
  • Well, when I first saw this post I just decided to take a 5 minutes walk as it was so arrogant and way out of the line. I decided not to comment as it would have been completely undisplayable.

    I hoped that Dell (Lionel) is going to comment and apologize. It happened but only partly.

    I think even if we forget the 3 months delay about the XPS-700 shipments the missing features would have benefited from a more honest and polite answer from Dell.

    I'm not going to debate if Dell has the "right" to exclude things, and also how they advertise the product (big letters vs. small print).
    All I'm going to say is what I have said before: this whole XPS story is a shame and even after 3 months Dell does not seem to learn from the past and day by day just puts more oil to the burning fire.

    I was part of it. Thanks God I WAS! I'm typing this message from the computer I built on my own after I cancelled my XPS-700. The delay provided me with plenty of time to research, negotiate and find the best sourcing points. So I managed to pull it out cheaper.
    I have a motherboard with 2 Gigabit ports
    I have an original retail SoundBlaster X-Fi card with all DD & DTS
    I have all the missing RAID and other features
    I'm happy. Probably happier than I would have been with  the XPS-700. It's just too much "blood" and "tears" are attached to it. Every time I look at an XPS-700 picture I recall the past 3 months, the lies and deceptions. and now I'll remember Lionels post about the "rampant" speculations...

    One thing is for sure:
    Dell does not know how to build a true enthusiast machine
    Dell does not know how to handle customer complaints

    Dell only knows how to send loyal customers to the competition.

    Excellent business strategy!

    Congratulations!
  • I gave up due the projected October 19th ship date (Original ship date was to be 1st week in Aug).  I got tired of waiting. I am very pleased though that some are actually starting to receive their XPS 700's I went with one of the other "Boutique" builders and I am very satisfied. No OEM parts, all Retail. It may have been slightly more expensive than the XPS 700, the case isn't as cool looking but I ordered on Aug 14th and my Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme processor X6800, dual 2.93GHz cores, 1024MB eVGA™ NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7950 GX2, PCI-Express, 2 x DVI machine was on my doorstep on August 22nd.
  • After my 2 reorder, can I get a real estimate on my ship date. Thank you, my original order was June 8th. Thank you Lionel
  • Lionel,

    Is it possible for us to enable DTS or DD on the Dell version of the X-fi card?  Is it merely a jumper or configuration setting?  I sure hope so-- after all, the Logitech Z-5500 speaker system I bought from Dell proudly features and promotes DTS, THX, and Dolby Digital as key features...I bought the speakers with the false knowledge that they would be able to interface properly.  Can you please let us all know if we can enable anything on the X-fi card...AND for that matter, can we enable any of the features on the motherboard?  Or is this a solder job?
  • Lionel,

    My computer has shipped.  No upgrade call, no gift-card call.  Order date was June 13, 2006.

    In a prior post, you stated:

    "2. How will Dell make it up to customers who have been waiting patiently for their XPS 700 orders to ship?
    Due to the delays many of you have experienced, we will provide an option of either a free upgrade to a Core 2 Duo processor or a Dell gift card for all those who have ordered systems as of up until July 18, 2006.  We ask for your continued patience as we roll out communication to our customer care and sales teams.  Customers should wait until Dell contacts them regarding the status of their orders."

    Since neither took place, what should I (and customers similarly situated) do?

    Thanks.

    RCamara
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