32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Ken C — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:40:59 GMT

It's funny when I see references to "packaging" and the only focus seems to be the the box. First let me say that as a user of Dell products (LOTS OF THEM) the box is the easiest, most cost effective and highly recycleable thing about the "package". Reducing the box by say 10% or some such and calling it a green initiative would be greenwashing at best.

What about all the styrofoam? What about every cable being wrapped in plastic and some items (mouse) DOUBLE WRAPPED? Why are there #4, #5 and #7 plastics used for baggin different things in the same box? This is such a drain and makes it very difficult to recycle.

We order hundreds of PCs at a time. Why not send us 5 manuals, driver disks, and warrenty cards and we'll archive that instead of trashing/recyclign hundreds of them? I litterally unbox 48 PCs at a time. I take the 3 CDs that come in each box and put them DIRECTLY into our CD recycling container!

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Darrel — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:19:22 GMT

Dell and the rest of us still have a long way to go. Control of chemical output helps everyone's water...but much of it's already a toxic mess. Paper conservation helps the forests, but as noted we still use a lot and wood fiber is treated with acids to produce it and that aways goes somewhere. Energy production causes a multitude of ills and by Dell's own admission the purpose of producing more energy efficient models is largely to produce more and more computers. The social environment gets neglected, too, with gas prices soaring and the climate warming it's the poor and native peoples of the world..those least equiped to do so...that take the heat.

I don't want to know what my new Vostro REALLY cost...but I need to know how I can use it to do better. WE have to...

--a grad student focused on the historical consequences of technical change.

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Cristiano — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:33:22 GMT

Nitpicking on what seems like an isolated event does not go with the high standards Dell promotes, not at all.

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Ben Dover — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:14:58 GMT

Hmmm...HP may have found a loophole to saving the environment by shipping orders with whatever they have left laying around...sounds like a new "recycling" program to me... ;-)

By the way...*THAT* was sarcasm...

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Harsh Johri — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:05:38 GMT

Hi everyone,

I feel this post is not to criticize HP of their poor packaging methods, rather encourage them to review their methods so that we all move towards a greener future. This is for our own benefit. If HP does respopnd to this callout, the purpose of this post is achieved. So lets not argue about who is better as a PC manufacturer rather focus on who is concerened about the environment and is working towards it.

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Allen — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:46:45 GMT

Honestly, just think about the other boxes (hundreds, thousands?) that may have been sent out like this one.. This is a great post to show the wastefulness of a company.. It just so happens to be HP.. It was brought for everyone to see. If we want to act on the "Green movement", something this small should be pointed out.. I agree on the glass house analogy, lets hope Dells shipping practices are a little better.. If not , than it looks like the foot will be headed to the mouth..

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

jonas mcflurry — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:33:08 GMT

patrick,

dell did not manufacture windows vista, microsoft did, so microsoft is to blame. i have an XPS laptop with vista, yep, it's really buggy. i have an HP desktop on windows vista as well, but guess what, it's still buggy! microsoft's strategy is to partner with pc manufacturers like acer, dell, hp, lenovo, etc. that's how microsoft got their billions. although these pc manufacturers do support windows problems, but to bash out the pc manufacturer is pointing a finger at the wrong guy. do what i do, bash out microsoft instead. or like what you said, go with apple instead. but just be warned with limited applications that are compatible with their software, if you want help, apple will charge you very expensive prices for their support. me? i would rather use ubuntu or redhat ;)

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Bob Denero — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:37:22 GMT

More like a childish post. Picking out what looks like a minor issue from a competitior and making out its a huge problem, then trying to position Dell as eco-friendly whilst throwing in an unrelated HP-bashing video on Youtube.

Web 2.0 guerilla marketing tatctics? I don't think so. I am glad HP does not stoop down to these levels as it shows a real lack of class.

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Patrick — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:33 GMT

In fairness, any compnay that uses an entire pallet to ship one mouse deserves a little gentle fun being poked at them....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/23/enormouse/

Great picture, crazy packaging strategy!

re: 32 Pages of Paper in 17 Boxes

Jack — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:09:03 GMT

I love the tone of this post. When I worked at Dell ten years ago that was the mentality. Be competitive or go home. Only when there is competition is excellence achived. So Dell is so far out ahead of the other major computer manufactures now they have to call them out and create competion. HP will either step up and help push Dell or they will ignore the challenge and fall behind. Either way Dell wins, GREAT POST!