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Folding@Home: Helping to find cures for disease

Many of you have heard of Distributed Computing and are aware of its benefits. Stanford University's PandeGroup Folding@Home project is a great example of this model.

Here's how it works: people throughout the world download and run software to band together, to find the cause and cure for diseases such as Alzheimer's disease, Huntington's disease, Cancer, Parkinson's disease and others. Alzheimer's alone affects more than 5 million Americans. It afflicts one in eight people 65 and older and nearly one in two people over 85. Worse, as the population ages, Alzheimer's is steadily rising. Sixteen million are forecast to have the mind-destroying illness by 2050, not counting other forms of dementia.

There are currently more than 97,000 teams in over 98 countries worldwide (consisting of almost 900,000 individual computers) participating in this project, but it's not enough. The amount of processing that needs to be done is mind-boggling.

At the risk of this becoming a boring science lecture, here's an introduction to the science behind this project and the reason we need more people to join.  Proteins are the basis of how biology gets things done.  In order to carry out their function (as enzymes or antibodies), they must take on a particular shape, also known as a "fold."  Thus, proteins are truly amazing machines: before they do their work, they assemble themselves!  This self-assembly is called "folding."  It's amazing that not only do proteins self-assemble -- fold -- but they do so amazingly quickly: some as fast as a millionth of a second. While this amount of time is mind boggling to a person's timescale, it's remarkably long for computers to simulate.  In fact, it takes about a day to simulate a nanosecond (1/1,000,000,000 of a second).  Unfortunately, proteins fold on the tens of microsecond timescale (10,000 nanoseconds). Thus, it would take 10,000 CPU-Days to simulate folding -- i.e. it would take 30 CPU years!  That's a long time to wait for one result!  It's believed that when these proteins "miss-fold," disease begins.

In July of 2007, a group of us "regulars" who frequently read and posted on the Dell Community Forum decided to start a team and join the Folding@Home project. Thus, TEAM_XPS was formed.  It was my first experience with distributed computing, and I was pleasantly surprised.  First of all, it was easy to install.  Second, it wasn't a "resource hog".  The program would use the idle CPU cycles when I was not using my PC and then it would go idle whenever I was.  This was a huge relief to me since I play a lot of games and didn't want my machines performance to be affected.  Then something else happened.  The project became fun...and a little competitive!

Stanford University awards points to the team (as well as the individual) for every completed work unit. It started as an inter-team rivalry. We all wanted to be the top contributor. Members were enlisting computers from family members, friends, even their office computers.  Before we knew it, we were climbing the ranks as a team.  To date, we have climbed into the ranks of the top 150 teams (out of 97,000+) that is a testament to the power of our XPS and DIY machines!

Over the past few months, our membership has grown steadily (as well as our points' totals) to a total of 76 members. Some have family members that suffer from these diseases, some are hoping a cure will be found before they themselves get such a disease, and others just like the friendly competition.  We have all makes and models of PC's on our team, but since we all originally met on the DCF XPS boards, we petitioned Dell for permission to use their copyrighted Dell XPS logo as the basis for a team logo, and Dell (Itself a supporter of F@H) allowed it. We also have a thread on the Dell Community Forum where members help each other with Folding@Home-related issues and PC issues.  We've become pretty good friends while doing our part to help with this project.  It would be impossible to encompass the entire experience to this point with a single blog post.

More information on Stanford University's Folding@Home project can be found at their official site where you could also download the software. If you're interested in joining Team_XPS, first step is to download the software. When prompted, enter 80856 for the Team Number, and that's it. If you need help, leave comments to this post, or you can visit us at Team_XPS' DCF and RSF threads.

Please feel free to visit us on our thread and feel free to ask any questions. We encourage all to join our team and help this project reach its goals.

With our gratitude to Lionel, DCF and Dell for giving us the opportunity to post this blog; God Bless All.

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The information above really isn't answering my question, because I still don't know how to gain points so can someone help me?
 
Have you noticed that there are now more than 100,000 Teams Folding@Home ???
 
To think there were 80,000 in July when Team_XPS started...

That's 80,000 Teams in 7 Years (Since year 2000 Inception of F@H )
And there have been 20,000 more created in the last 6 months!!!
 
If we say 20,000 Teams in 200 Days.... woohoo.... That's an average increase of 100 Teams Daily :lol:

OR, 4 Teams Hourly .... or A New Team created in every 15 Minutes just about {Was that correct English BTW}

Nice Job Every one.... may the force be with us in our quest to help humanity !!!
 
I think this is exciting!
 

Peace
 
CHSIsupplier

That's great RichardatDell! Thanks for your support. That's exactly what this blog post was about....shedding some light on this project. I really think that if we could just make more people aware of it, there would be many more contributors. Thanks again!

 
Wow! My grade school friend, Chris Snow, was one of the instrumental graduate students who worked on the folding@home project! I always love seeing his project in the news! Way to go Dell and crew for contributing to this amazingly valuable research!
 

Thanx Richard;

This has been a great 5 days since this blog was originally posted.  Team_XPS has gained more members in this period than ever before.  All this can be attributed to the steady and persistent characterisitic(s) of current members, now assisted by Dell/DCF and with the help of people like yourself spreading the word, Team_XPS will soon be gaining even more members.

One must note that to date (Since July '07 Inception of the team) we have not been taken over by any other teams.  Personally I attribute that to the quality of our members.  Team_XPS is currently running with 58 of its signing members (out of 81) still folding.  That is a 71.6% Success ratio, when compared to teams that are running at 20 to 30 percent.

 Richard, I hope that you too soon will join Team_XPS (#80856)

Peace

What a great idea, initiative and blog post.  Thanks for your leadership (and great use of Dell computers)....I have reposted to my Facebook profile hoping that might gain some additional traction for this post and the cause.

 

What a great idea, initiative and blog post.  Thanks for your leadership (and great use of Dell computers)....I have reposted to my Facebook profile hoping that might gain some additional traction for this post and the cause.

 

Lionel, thanks for publicizing this good cause.  We've already gained new members as a result.

A couple of comments on some of the earlier posts:

  • While the points awarded by Stanford don't count for any prizes or anything like that, they do reflect the amount of work done as measured against a "reference" computer.  In other words, the points help measure how much work has been contributed to the project, and also help users maximize those contributions by maximizing points.  (And of course, the points spur competition.)
  • The Cell processor in the PS3 has been a great resource for Folding at Home as shown in the point totals.  But, the PS3 projects are not identical to the PC CPU projects (or to the PC GPU projects).  Each different kind of project is useful and provides information that the other projects don't.

Read more about it all here: http://folding.stanford.edu/

 Fold On!

 

 
BioGeek said:

"I noticed when I installed the software on the PS3 that the donator is listed as PS3.  So unsuprisingly, one of the top donators listed there is...PS3.  Use both, I have the XPS going doing its folding and then the PS3 running doing some as well.  Now if only this XBOX360 could do something." 

BIO i know you would like to see that on the 360 so would i BUT the thing is the first thing that needs to be done on the 360 is fix the cooling issue other wise every one running the 360 with F@H would Expierince the Dreaded Redring of death.

 

Awesome. In that case, I should complete my first one overnight. And if they ever make an Xbox 360 version of the app...

 
CHSIsupplier

Lionel- It depends on what processor and client you're running. On a dual core, you can plan on somewhere around 24 hours, and with a quad core somewhere around 16 hours. These are rough estimates of course. It seems like all of the clients (with the exception of the PS3, which seems to run faster) take about the same amount of time to complete. The real difference in teh clients is the amount of points rewarded. The SMP console client is by far the biggest points earner.

 

Jeff: My bad... I accidentally stopped running the Folding@Home client software for the last day and a half.

Just started it up again this morning. How long should it take for me to finsih a work unit?

 
CHSIsupplier

Lionel- When are you going to finish your first work unit? Your name won't show up on the team list until you complete one unit.

 

Michael, PS3 is more beneficial to F@H and its science; however the SMP Clients (Windows & Linux) award the most points!!!

BioGeek, When using a PS3, Sony has it set as default to award points to PS3/Sony's team.  In order for you and Team_XPS to get credit, you must change the UserID & TeamNumber

 Thanx in Advance for everyone's contribution(s) to Humanity.

Peace

 

 

And we still don't have a clue what ID Dell_Jimmy is using on Team_XPS.  He has definitely been incognito/undercover.... However, Team_XPS appreciates his help and all others, in plain site or hidden ;)))

 Peace

Dell-Jimmy P said:

This is a great opportunity for people to get to know each other, have a little fun with the competition and do something to help others at the same time. I've been folding full time for the team since I discovered the thread in the DCF.

 

 

I noticed when I installed the software on the PS3 that the donator is listed as PS3.  So unsuprisingly, one of the top donators listed there is...PS3.  Use both, I have the XPS going doing its folding and then the PS3 running doing some as well.  Now if only this XBOX360 could do something.

 

If you really want to help the project, forget about using a PC but get a PS3 instead. Just look at the stats, the PS3 group is absolutely killing the "normal" computers in every way.

 
Dell-Jimmy P

This is a great opportunity for people to get to know each other, have a little fun with the competition and do something to help others at the same time. I've been folding full time for the team since I discovered the thread in the DCF.

 

Thank you for pointing out Folding@Home. This is a good cause to add one's CPU power to. Anybody who is not interested in this particular project may want to check out http://boinc.berkeley.edu where there are many more projects between which it is difficult to decide.

What I personally would love to see is that Dell's stress test - you are doing such prior to shipmen, aren't you? - does comprise some worthwhile computations like these rather then crude benchmarks alone. With a few thousand machines being tested every day this would have quite some impact. Actually, maybe this is something for ideastorm.com.

Regards,

SM

 
CHSIsupplier
Craig- the points are awarded for only one reason (as far as I can tell), and that is to breed competition among the various teams. Personally, I think it was a brilliant idea on the part of The Pande Group at Stanford to do this. You know how competitive people can be, especially when you're talking about computer "geeks" and their machines. All of the teams want to contribute to the study, but they also want to be the top points earners. It's just an ego thing I guess....there are no prizes awarded or anything like that.
 

A group of Dell customers began spending a lot of time together because of Dell's willingness to interact with the customers regarding the needs of the XPS 700 customers who were in search of an upgrade path. Dell responded in the end with the free motherboard upgrade program and many positive long term relationships have been established.

The strength of those relationships has become a significant part of the foundation for the growth of the XPS Folding Home team. The number of positive spin- offs that will continue for years to come because Dell listened to its XPS customers, nobody knows! In a sense you might say that lives will very well be touched and saved because of this.

Turning failure into success is something every great company and leader will point to as a major reason for the greatness and growth of a corporation. I too would like to thank Michael Dell and his leadership for making decisions that will continue to positively impact many people's lives for years to come, and ultimately save some.

I have to chuckle Lionel when I see your computer specs on the Dell Community Forum! XPS 700/720. All of the Rampant Speculation back in the day brought a Dell technician to your house and got you a free motherboard upgrade! You might say that is the ultimate example of a Corporation working side by side with its customers to achieve a better Dell; when Dell listens to its customers Dell (employees) experience the positive change as well as the customers. Lionel, you’re doing a great job of showing the world a better Dell- I admire you willingness to not only work with the customers but to join them, becoming an official member of the XPS Folding Home team!

http://rampantspeculation.com/  Proud supporter of Dell XPS Folding Home Team!

 

 

David Marshall: Thanks for your kind words... Regarding the XPS 720: what can I say? I'm a hardware geek through and through. I had been wanting to upgrade beyond my Dimension 8400 that had served me well, and the upgrade program made it a really easy decision.

 
What is the point of the points that are awarded in the project?
 

Thanx Lionel / DCF

This is an invitation to all to join, and so is this (VIPs only)

 

Peace